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Steinberger Spirits

Are those Alembic guitar PUs?
Alembic says they make a humbucker-sized bass pickup, see [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

Alembic is one brand that nobody here in the Spirits thread has mentioned using before for mods. No wonder! Alembic's prices are outrageous.

The pickups are not listed in [Invalid or Expired Link Removed], but the Activator onboard electronics are, and they are all $1k and up. One could only imagine what a set of pickups would be! $2k?

Datsgor, hopefully you picked that Alembic stuff up for your Spirit used!

People have ragged on Alembic's current pricing elsewhere in Talkbass, and should continue to do so. My experience was buying an F-1X rack preamp in 1993 for $700. Alembic wants $3300 for one today. That's way beyond inflation.
 
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Are those Alembic guitar PUs?
As far as I know, it is a bass PU. I bought it in 1986 when I was building my first bass and really had no idea what I was doing. There was no internet and I went to the local music store to talk to the person behind the counter. I told him what I was doing and he sold me this and the wiring harness with a filter. You raise a good question though and it's about time I contact Alembic with some pictures and try to find out what I have. :)

here is a picture of said bass next to a guitar I built for a friend.
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Oh, so you only had one Alembic pickup to install in your Spirit. Which position did you put it in, and did you keep the Select pickup or pull it?

I figured the Alembic stuff was used!
Yea, one pickup I put in the neck position. I replaced the select pickup because the tab for mounting screw broke. I still have both of the select pups. One in the bridge position and one in a parts box. Yep, bought it new and it was pretty cheap if I remember correctly, less than 200.
 
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The pickups are not listed in [Invalid or Expired Link Removed], but the Activator onboard electronics are, and they are all $1k and up. One could only imagine what a set of pickups would be! $2k?
I know they'll sell the PUs separately but didn't know they made them in HB size. I think I'd rather Alumitones or similar in there for the money.
 
Did anyone see the Robot Graves aluminum bass neck in the classifieds? It looks sweet - an upgrade like that would be quite nice for a Spirit! Maybe that crosses the "lipstick on a pig" line but...

TL,DR version: Spirit XZ-25 + Tone Monster preamp = :bassist::bassist::bassist:

Anyway, I got to try out my XZ with the preamp installed and I'm quite happy with it (also put on new Status strings). It's bright and full, seems to get close to my custom fiver (which makes it great for a backup or for traveling) so I'm sticking with the stock pickups for now. It doesn't sound like a toy through the 'big' rig; I have yet to try it through my PJB rig but I'm not worried about it at this point.

One added benefit is increased output. I had the pickups pretty close to the strings and it seemed to sound a little distorted to me. That may not be the reason, but it didn't sound 'clean' if that makes sense. I backed them down a bit and installed the pre, then compared the output signal to my custom five string - had to back off the gain a little as it was hot! They seem pretty well matched now, so I don't have to adjust anything if I ever need to swap. Sweet! I can also go 18v if I want - but it's perfect the way it is.

Fyi, I got the 2-band (TONE MONSTER SEB2-AB Guitar Bass Preamp Balance Volume Treble/Bass 3 Pots - as it is listed on eBay).

Cheers!

Raz
 
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@Razman- would love to hear your Spirit through your Phil Jones. Wow! You've probably got the nicest amp setup there of any of us!
Aww shucks - I don't know what to say - one might argue I'm beyond blessed and entering into 'spoiled' territory. I'm not sure I ran the Spirit through my PJB stuff after I installed the preamp in it or not, so you just gave me some motivation to set it all back up again and do a comparo. I was going to do that in my theater recently but blew up my 700rb in the process. My desire to play at that moment evaporated so I brought it all home as we needed to clear out our theater to prop for our next major event. Now everything is in a stack behind me as I type this in my office, under dust covers.

I say however, the rig to experience is this one:

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Well, minus the PJB mini-stack, although combining everything is pretty awesome! Harmonic sustain? Check. Pants a-flappin'? Check. Building structural integrity test? Check. Earplugs? Required. Sanity? What is this you speak of?? :bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist::bassist:

The creation of that rig is another long story. The bass I'm holding is my main axe, and I've been searching for a good backup for a long time. Got several nice basses now, the big surprise was how closely the Spirit comes to mimicking it's tone. It's not exact but is the closest thing I've found lately that could serve as a good backup as it has a similar-feeling low-mid punch that my custom has. Not quite as clear down there but it's a little brighter sounding and that's fine.

I do get harassed because it's a headless bass and apparently the look is polarizing to the rest of my band. They keep saying it's broken; I nicknamed it the "Rebel Bass" (drummer is a Star Wars nut) since it's the only one missing it's head.

Oh - that reminds me - our next major event is based on Star Wars Obi-Wan and guess who I get to be? Darth Vader! Pics with my basses (including my red Conklin GT-7) and accompanying memes are flooding in my brain right now, I can't wait! This should be fun - "I've found the location of the rebel bass!" :roflmao:

Raz

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I do get harassed because it's a headless bass and apparently the look is polarizing to the rest of my band. They keep saying it's broken; I nicknamed it the "Rebel Bass" (drummer is a Star Wars nut) since it's the only one missing it's head.

HA! Rebel bass! Great pic, Raz!

My usual trumpet player for theatre shows around here always asks me if I'm bringing "Marie Antoinette" (my XZ-2) for the gig, after I used it several times in the early 2010's. :)

Spirits are good theatre basses- headless is good in a cramped-up pit. I bought the XZ-2 in 2000 after I hit a clarinet player next to me in the face with my Warmoth's headstock.
 
HA! Rebel bass! Great pic, Raz!

My usual trumpet player for theatre shows around here always asks me if I'm bringing "Marie Antoinette" (my XZ-2) for the gig, after I used it several times in the early 2010's. :)

Spirits are good theatre basses- headless is good in a cramped-up pit. I bought the XZ-2 in 2000 after I hit a clarinet player next to me in the face with my Warmoth's headstock.
Our theater is slightly different than a typical theater with a band pit in that our band is on an elevated center stage, but on stage in our sanctuary I have almost knocked out other musicians in my vicinity with the headstock of one of my 7's due to our small real estate there. For one of our theater shows I was on a platform with a guitar player; had an XT-25 at the time and it was perfect! Their size is quite practical in some contexts.
 
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Our theater is slightly different than a typical theater with a band pit in that our band is on an elevated center stage, but on stage in our sanctuary I have almost knocked out other musicians in my vicinity with the headstock of one of my 7's due to our small real estate there. For one of our theater shows I was on a platform with a guitar player; had an XT-25 at the time and it was perfect! Their size is quite practical in some contexts.