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Stephen Cobert

#21
paulraphael said:
+1

part of the problem is that he's ALWAYS in character. and his character, by design, is loud, abrasive, and infuriating. as much as you might love the joke, 30 minutes of it is a lot of punishment. if someone is going to be such a perfect charicature of a loudmouth like limbaugh, you almost might as well watch limbaugh! i still watch colbert when i get a chance, but i'm usually pretty tired afterwards.

stewart has a better gig ... he gets to be himself, and even when he's manic he's fun to hang out with for a half hour.
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YEA... this is the point. His character, as it is on the repor... , would be a better part of something larger. No one to contest the POV, except a few guest who aren't overwhelmed by it.

Stewart is better... but look how many people he has walking on the off the set. Reporters, guest op-eds and always a (usually) legit guest. Lots of variety. Cobert needs a little less of himself.
 
#23
To really appreciate Mr. Colbert more you should try watching some severe right wing shows like The O'Reilly Factor or Hannity and colmes.

And both Stewart and Colbert are scripted.
You know what? So are all the other shows - leno, letterman, conan, etc.

Me? I enjoy both.
 
#24
threshar said:
To really appreciate Mr. Colbert more you should try watching some severe right wing shows like The O'Reilly Factor or Hannity and colmes.
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Meh, I've seen those before.

Here's an example of something that wasn't funny that I was watching on Colbert the other day. Maybe some of you saw it:

He's talking about a book that plagiarized parts from another book. Then he talks about how he's going to read parts from his own book. What he reads is a compilation of famous lines from other books all strung together. Yeah, I get the joke, no subtlety at all, it hits you like a sledgehammer and you could see it coming as soon as he mentioned HIS book, it just wasn't funny. Reading it in a loud, talk show host voice doesn't make it funnier. I rarely think something is funny when you can see it coming so far ahead and it just wasn't that funny anyway. It's like the jokes for most sitcoms out there.

He is funny, he can be funny, I just don't think he's the right guy for a full 30 minute show.

bc
 
#25
I don't have cable. So I haven't seen the show.

But I did hear clips of him at the White House Press Correspondents Dinner. He was amazing. It was some seriously biting, really funny, political humor. And the best part is that he's telling killer Bush jokes with Bush himself sitting less than ten feet away.

"Fox News gives you both sides of the news: the Presidents' viewpoint...and the Vice-Presidents' viewpoint."

And congratulating the reporters on their restraint in not bothering America with real content? Ouch. Heh heh.

"The President releases a statement. His press secretary announces it. You print it. That's it. Just spellcheck it and go home. See your family. Make love to your wife. Work on your novel. You know the one. It has a Washington reporters who is not afraid to speak his mind. You know. Fiction."

There was a lot of pretty good stuff. But I can't post most of it here because it gets political. But the parts where he cstigated the Washington press should be fair game.:D :p ;) :smug:
 
#27
anyone remember the "ads" for the colbert report that ran on the daily show that got it all started?

THAT show would have been great.

The Colbert Report as it actually is is just alright.

the line, "we donate our unpronounced T's to victims of hurricane katrina," was great, though.
 
#28
paulraphael said:
+1

part of the problem is that he's ALWAYS in character. and his character, by design, is loud, abrasive, and infuriating. as much as you might love the joke, 30 minutes of it is a lot of punishment. if someone is going to be such a perfect charicature of a loudmouth like limbaugh, you almost might as well watch limbaugh! i still watch colbert when i get a chance, but i'm usually pretty tired afterwards.
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its an "acquired" taste... ;) sometimes, i can only take only so much of conan being overly self-effacing to the point of self-loathing, but hey, he's conan!

but i love what colbert is doing. sly yet funny in all the right places.
 
#30
jokerjkny said:
its an "acquired" taste... ;) sometimes, i can only take only so much of conan being overly self-effacing to the point of self-loathing, but hey, he's conan!

but i love what colbert is doing. sly yet funny in all the right places.
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i think he's brilliant guy. very talented.

for my tastes, i tend to agree with the people who liked him more in smaller doses, as a correspondent on the daily show ... he almost made me pee in my pants a few times with his interviews and reports.
 
#31
paulraphael said:
i think he's brilliant guy. very talented.

for my tastes, i tend to agree with the people who liked him more in smaller doses, as a correspondent on the daily show ... he almost made me pee in my pants a few times with his interviews and reports.
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yea,

i'm kinda like that w/ steve carell. i know i'll get bashed for this, but while i dug what he did in "40 yr. old", sometimes, i can only take so much of him on his TV show.

again, maybe its the more the character, but oi...
 
#36
I prefer Colbert to Stewart (it took a while)... I think Stewart's gotten a little too weak, too hammy in his comedy.

Plus, I appreciate that Colbert's interviews are tougher, sharper satire than Stewart's, which may be a matter of personal preference (I didn't appreciate Stewart putting on the kid gloves when O'Reilly was on the Daily Show)...

And I like the running gag that's behind everything on Colbert's show: that his ego is so huge, I think he works it well.
 
#37
wolfs said:
I prefer Colbert to Stewart (it took a while)... I think Stewart's gotten a little too weak, too hammy in his comedy.

Plus, I appreciate that Colbert's interviews are tougher, sharper satire than Stewart's, which may be a matter of personal preference (I didn't appreciate Stewart putting on the kid gloves when O'Reilly was on the Daily Show)...

And I like the running gag that's behind everything on Colbert's show: that his ego is so huge, I think he works it well.
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the interviews on TDS were never intended as satire, even with craig kilborne as host.
 

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