I have the latest version of a Ray4, big upgrade from the from the SUB4 it replaced. Mine is actually pretty cool. I prefer it over my muddy MIM Fender p. I have played it at every gig for almost 2 years. The Ray4 lacks in the finish compared to a Ray34 or MIM Fender. I read where the latest ray4 has the same electronics as the Ray24 had. My son has a Ray34, older version with the painted headstock. You have to really calm it down to get a big sound. I want to try some flats on my ray4.