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stingray bass thoughts
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Yeah, except he posted like 4 threads, the first one legit, the second one asking if anyone else thought EBMM tone sucks, the third about smashing the crap out of a Stingray, and the 4th about selling a Stingray. Smells like troll, I figures, it is troll.
EDIT: As far as it only being EBMM, nahh. I just like messin' with trolls
bongomania
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The deal here is the OP also posted a massively trolling thread yesterday evening, and he got publicly ridiculed for it, so when people saw this thread too they decided to keep riding him for being a troll.
So it's not quite a case of "EBMM = flamesuit", just a leftover of last night's tarring and feathering.
So it's not quite a case of "EBMM = flamesuit", just a leftover of last night's tarring and feathering.
Well, if he was clever and wanted to do some satire, he would have asked something like "Which SR color/finish is best for slap" 
Well, if he was clever and wanted to do some satire, he would have asked something like "Which SR color/finish is best for slap"
Now that is a good one. I say white all the other colors suck for slap
It got deleted, apparently. It was called "Stingray basses are the complete junk." Check Suprise Panda!'s thread "Stingray basses are the complete funk" and that's basically what he posted, save the niceties in bold.
Pretty condesending stuff there, bassmonkeee! The "thinness" I'm referring to is nothing to do with EQing, it's about the lack of warmth and resonance in the acoustic properties of the bass. I've found all 3 of my EBMM 'Rays (to varying degrees) to be more harsh and brittle sounding than the old one I have. The thick lacquer and the body wood (whatever it is) on my last (2004) StingRay made it feel like the bass was made of glass and so notes had plenty of attack but no depth.
I tried a set of Thomastik flats on it and all that did was take away the characteristic "click and clank" tone (which that bass had in spades) and left a rather flat, thin tone in its place
.Of course I could drown it with bass boost and make it boomy, but that's not the same thing as having a bass with "built in warmth and thickness".
There, I've tired my best to explain it to you. At least a percentage of people who've owned several different StingRays will have some idea what I'm talking about, even if you think we're all just "doing it wrong"
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(Sigh)
I don't even own one, but have played enough 'Rays to know if you can't get a good sound out of one, there are two possibilities that seem most likely:
-Some people haven't figured out those round knob-looking things on a bass are for; or
-You're playing said 'Ray through what must be the most atrocious amp ever made, and haven't figured out those square boxes also have round knob-looking things on them for a reason.
Kinda like saying you can't get a good sound out of a P-Bass, or a Jazz Bass, or whatever... ...or that you got a box full of sharp knives but can't find anything to cut with.
While there are differences in tone, etc... I can't remember ever playing a bass that you couldn't coax a good tone out of it that would be acceptable and listenable to a very, very broad range of listeners and players- even the cheapest of basses.
This doesn't mean I'm not discerning about tone, but come on folks, it's a "Ray.
Don't like your bass, send it to me. I'm sure it sounds great.
I don't even own one, but have played enough 'Rays to know if you can't get a good sound out of one, there are two possibilities that seem most likely:
-Some people haven't figured out those round knob-looking things on a bass are for; or
-You're playing said 'Ray through what must be the most atrocious amp ever made, and haven't figured out those square boxes also have round knob-looking things on them for a reason.
Kinda like saying you can't get a good sound out of a P-Bass, or a Jazz Bass, or whatever... ...or that you got a box full of sharp knives but can't find anything to cut with.
While there are differences in tone, etc... I can't remember ever playing a bass that you couldn't coax a good tone out of it that would be acceptable and listenable to a very, very broad range of listeners and players- even the cheapest of basses.
This doesn't mean I'm not discerning about tone, but come on folks, it's a "Ray.
Don't like your bass, send it to me. I'm sure it sounds great.
Fender
Or maybe it's your playing?
I know that I use a different touch on my Stingray than on my Fender.
There's "warmth" in a EBMM SR both acousticly and plugged in.
When somebody make a Stingray sound harsh and brittle (which happens alot) it's usually the user. Either a case of don't know how to work the EQ or more importantly how he/she plays it.
Or maybe it's your playing?
I know that I use a different touch on my Stingray than on my Fender.
There's "warmth" in a EBMM SR both acousticly and plugged in.
When somebody make a Stingray sound harsh and brittle (which happens alot) it's usually the user. Either a case of don't know how to work the EQ or more importantly how he/she plays it.
Kenneth, did you even read what I posted, or did you just pick out a few words at random
?I HAVE OWNED MANY BASSES. I HAVE OWNED SEVERAL (5) STINGRAYS. I AM NOT AN IDIOT.
I am telling you, as a statement of fact, that I can clearly hear a (small) difference in tone between my oldest 'Ray and the later ones that I've had.
I did not say in, any of my posts, that "I couldn't get a good sound out of my EBMM 'Rays". I simply pointed out that I have noticed a difference and that the early bass sounds warmer, whichever strings I use, position/style that I play in etc.
One of the rules of TB is that we respect other peoples' opinions, even if we don't necessarily agree with them. Telling people that they don't know what they are talking about (when clearly, they do) and suggesting that their playing style is somehow at fault, isn't really in keeping with that, IMO.
Just a simple "IMHO" inserted at appropriate intervals would help keep things more civil, IMO.
(Posted today in another thread on this topic) ...
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5915534&postcount=19
So, that's two of us who need to go to "How To Use an Amp" training college, is it!?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5915534&postcount=19
So, that's two of us who need to go to "How To Use an Amp" training college, is it
!?
Is the tone you're experiencing the one you hear when you play or the one you hear in the mix of a recording.
The "thinness" I'm referring to is nothing to do with EQing, it's about the lack of warmth and resonance in the acoustic properties of the bass. I've found all 3 of my EBMM 'Rays (to varying degrees) to be more harsh and brittle sounding than the old one I have. The thick lacquer and the body wood (whatever it is) on my last (2004) StingRay made it feel like the bass was made of glass and so notes had plenty of attack but no depth.
I tried a set of Thomastik flats on it and all that did was take away the characteristic "click and clank" tone (which that bass had in spades) and left a rather flat, thin tone in its place
Of course I could drown it with bass boost and make it boomy, but that's not the same thing as having a bass with "built in warmth and thickness".
There, I've tired my best to explain it to you. At least a percentage of people who've owned several different StingRays will have some idea what I'm talking about, even if you think we're all just "doing it wrong"
With the poor QC and therefore huge differences in tone from one bass to another that the pre-EB Stingray's suffered from, it's not surprising at all that you can hear a difference.
I can understand one not liking the tone of a EBMM. Please understand that it is very common to see someone pick up a bass and dime the eq before playing it. It is very common to pull a bass off the wall at the store and find the eq controls dimed. When I dime the controls on either of my EBMMs, they sound very "clanky" and not very warm, so that's probably why the first conclusion drawn when someone complains about a "clanky" Stingray...IMHO.
Also, the only time I get a "click" or "clack" from my basses is when the string hits the frets. If that is not a technique issue, then what? Sure, I've played a lot of other basses that don't pick up the sound of strings hitting the frets as much as my EBMMs, but what does that say?
I can understand one not liking the tone of a EBMM. Please understand that it is very common to see someone pick up a bass and dime the eq before playing it. It is very common to pull a bass off the wall at the store and find the eq controls dimed. When I dime the controls on either of my EBMMs, they sound very "clanky" and not very warm, so that's probably why the first conclusion drawn when someone complains about a "clanky" Stingray...IMHO.
Also, the only time I get a "click" or "clack" from my basses is when the string hits the frets. If that is not a technique issue, then what? Sure, I've played a lot of other basses that don't pick up the sound of strings hitting the frets as much as my EBMMs, but what does that say?
Well, if your playing mirrors your writing and debating skills...
then it's not suprising that you can't get a (EBMM) Stingray to work for you!!
Stop being so ridiculously sensitive.
Fender, read your own posts again.
