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Stingray into Avalon preamp

Hi,

i was in the studio the past couple of days and wanted to record directly into an Avalon preamp. the thing is that it would always distort. the producer says that this is due to the hot signal from my bass. has anyone else experienced this? is this normal or is there a problem with my bass?

cheers,
 
Well, assuming your battery is good...


Did you try turning the volume down on the instrument?

Was it a U5? Those things can take an enormous amount of input. +20, 24 something like that (without looking it up)
 
yeah i did turn down the volume which resulted in less distortion and a very thin sound. the battery is good as the bass doesn't distort when plugged into my amp and there is plenty of bass mid high boost available from the bass preamp. the Avalon is a VT735 SP. at some point the producer got rid of the distortion but it would sound very thin again.
 
This is just a personal setting which I find works the best on my Lakland 5.

I find taking out the mids cleans up the sound in the mix with lower distortion.

On an active bass never run the volume flat out unless it's a temporary gain thing.


Volume = 8 <> 9
Treble = 7
Mid = 3
Bass = 7
 
The preamp should have plenty enough headroom to take even a super loud bass signal. we have 5 musicman stingrays at the studio where I work, we use them all the time and have never had trouble like that on any of the pre amps we use!

what is your v6? do you mean the trace elliot amp? Are you using the DI on the front if so is it set to give the correct signal? (I could see some switches on the front next to the di but couldn't see what they were!)

If you are coming out of a line output of similar then that will certainly distort the pre amp.

Perhaps try using a different di? And if it really IS the bass (which I doubt!) you could put the pad on the di to attenuate the signal. You could also get an in-line attenuator and place it before the preamp, these things are cheap and useful to have around.
 
This is just a personal setting which I find works the best on my Lakland 5.

I find taking out the mids cleans up the sound in the mix with lower distortion.

On an active bass never run the volume flat out unless it's a temporary gain thing.


Volume = 8 <> 9
Treble = 7
Mid = 3
Bass = 7

what's your reason for not recording with the bass flat out? I can't seem to think of a reason not too! You should normally make sure that you ARE recording flat out with most things as it ensures that everything is running optimumly (ie good strong signals going between componants in the signal chain etc)

then again a bass circuit is so simple I've not known it to be too much of a problem unless the volume is RIGHT down.

Be careful of taking all those mids out of your bass signal, the mids are very important to a bass getting heard, in most mixes the highs will end up getting chopped off a bit but theres often a bit of mid work, a subtle boost etc, to make sure the bass can be heard in the mix. If you take out a lot of the mids your only choice is to put these back in unnaturally with a big eq boost! Wheras its a bit easier to cut it out if it's too much!

A big 'smily face' eq is flattering and fun to play with but is often not what you need to record.

That said, you are right that a mid heavy sound can easily clutter up a mix, its putting yet another signal into that all important mid area and you need a bit of skill to get it right! keep at it though.

if the mids being up is causing distortion then you're probably riding the gains a bit too high somewhere and the extra mid is pushing it over the edge! the loudest signal a bass can make should be no-where near distortion point for most good preamps (after a DI that is and most will be fine before as well!)