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Stingray popularity decline?

There was some buzz for the Fender Jag. But that was a reworked J or PJ, depending on the country of origin. But Fender has already dropped the US made Jag, so maybe much of that was the TB echo chamber. The Dimension didn't seem to get any traction at all. My sense is the Special's reception is closer to the Jag's than the Dimension's. I like the new Specials. If my herd wasn't in need of a good thinning, I'd be seriously looking at one.

Your time will come sooner than you think..I can feel it.
 
15 minutes is all I need. lol. Did I win something?
I mean that it is a bent plate, not a high mass cast. Most basses in the MMSR price range have nicer bridges. It works, but it could be better IMO. Sorry to offend the fanboys. :D
I used to believe that high-mass cast bridges were superior. Then I learned otherwise.
 
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I used to believe that high-mass cast bridges were superior. Then I learned otherwise.
I used to think that too, but now I think surface contact is the thing. The difference between a bent plate Fender and a bent plate Lakland is the greater surface contact. Every high mass bridge I can think of is larger than a Fender bent plate. Again, more surface contact.
 
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Your time will come sooner than you think..I can feel it.
When I get tired of my cobbled together J-Ray
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It's at the top of my list
 
I am not sure what a high mass cast is....and I'm not sure the bridge has anything to do with Stingray sales. Maybe it was reducing the amount of colors offered? Maybe, but then again we have had success when reducing options and becoming focused with other models. Up until the Stingray Special we haven't done any marketing for bass like we have for guitar.

Stingray sales did dip between 2015-2017, but so did the overall bass market. When was the last time a model came out that really excited or interested you for bass guitar? One of the reasons we came out with the Special was to try and instigate a sales lift. We've had a great start, now we just have to make sure it has legs.

Scott, my main bass is a Classic Sabre which I love, wish they weren’t gone, but I get it. But, I think you have really created a new huge wave of interest with the Special, you are correct, this is the first new bass I have had any interest in in literally decades. Now, we just need to work on the neck and color combos. Great colors and great necks, just not paired in ways I would really like. Truly nit picking!!
 
I think maybe structural rigidity may be what I'm actually going for. I don't find that in typical bent plate designs.
It’s my understanding that rolled metal plate is stronger than cast metal. Cast metals do not have the grain structure that rolled and forged materials do. There’s more mass in cast bridges — and they look pretty, too — but they are not necessarily stronger.
 
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Scott, my main bass is a Classic Sabre which I love, wish they weren’t gone, but I get it. But, I think you have really created a new huge wave of interest with the Special, you are correct, this is the first new bass I have had any interest in in literally decades. Now, we just need to work on the neck and color combos. Great colors and great necks, just not paired in ways I would really like. Truly nit picking!!

32 combinations for each 4 and 5 string! 64 total!! Hopefully there is ONE you can fall for! :)
 
The one thing that I have always wondered about with the Stingrays is why they went away from having string through body bridges? My Stingray Classic has one and I totally prefer that style bridge over a standard bridge.
 
Good question, especially since that's the way that Mr. Fender originally designed it.

When I was playing Music Man basses, I preferred the more modern Stingrays over the Stingray Classic because they had natural necks as opposed to gloss necks. Tummy cut and forearm cut on the body, making the ergonomics of the bass more comfortable and I like the 3 band eq over the 2 band for better versatility and volume output.

On my Stingray Classic, while I hated the glossy neck, I loved that it was birdseye maple instead of standard maple. The volume output on it was the equivalent of a passive bass. In fact, my custom shop P bass with Nordstrand Audio NP4a pickups in it has a higher volume output than my active Stingray Classic does but the 2 things I really loved about that Stingray Classic was the string through body bridge and out of any bass that I ever owned, be it Music Man or any other brand, that bass would sit in the mix like no other bass. It sounded as close to perfect as you can get when I would play it live.

On the night SEAL Team 6 killed Osama Bin Laden, a friends band came through town on tour. They asked me to sit in with them on a few songs so I did, and brought that bass. When I got there we realized that they all play through in ear monitors and don’t use any stage monitors at all. On the songs that I sat in on them with, I had to play completely by memory and all I could here on stage was the drums and a little bit of vocals in the mains. A fan at the show recorded one of the songs I played with the band and I was able to hear what everything sounded like from the crowds perspective. When it comes to my own amps and set up while playing, I am a tone nerd and am very specific and precise on getting everything to sound just right. When I heard the mix that was coming through the mains, it was spot on and the bass was coming through very clear on each note being played but was not overpowering.

The other times in recent years I have heard my basses in a house mix has been at church. I would mainly play my Music Man Bongos, and they always sounded really good in the house mix too. Same with my regular Stingray basses but my Classic would always come through any mix and sound the best. I’ll give it to the folks at Music Man that whatever they did when they built that bass, they obviously did very right!