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Stinnett Finger Funk books question

Jan 15, 2019
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Does anyone know if the Stinnett Finger Funk books come with audio discs, or do you have to download all the tracks? I've checked a few tracks available on the site, and one thing I don't like is that a backing track is not provided - just a "play along" with bass already in the mix. Are backing tracks provided with the books?

Also, do these books fold flat on a music stand?
Thanks!
 
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Jim's later series of books didnt come with CDs, just the download playalongs. A big part of Jim's teaching method was "copying the masters" which is why I believe he created the tracks with him playing the lines. By playing along with him you will be copying not only the notes, but the feel, phrasing and articulations. The tracks can also be used to copy the line by ear rather than using the notation in the book. Transcribing by ear was another one of Jim's core methods.

Have fun. Jim's study materials are golden.
 
Well I hope I didn't go overboard. I went ahead and ordered the Finger Funk book pack with the 1st 4 books. I'm pretty much a noob at reading and playing so going through from the start is probably a good way to go. I listened to the first few exercises in the 1st book and I think they are at my level.
The website doesn't show book stock and I haven't received a response besides Paypal payment. We'll see how it goes. It's not 100% clear that the company continued on after Mr. Stinnett passed away recently.
 
I think you should be fine, because his wife and son Grant had been involved with orders anyway.
Jim was ace, lovely in communication and excellent instructional materials.
Would like to hear your feedback, still, once you get the books.

Well they shipped on the same day I ordered, USPS priority, and got them today.

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I started on the first book today, getting through 3 exercises and into the 4th.

First impressions - these are not beginner books. No tabs, no fingering or even which string to play on, so you do have to figure out the best position to play. You really need some basics before jumping into even the Entry Level Finger Funk book.

My reading is not good, so I have to work through slowly and carefully. My main problem is I learned to read treble clef so I find myself translating. I'm hoping working through these will help reinforce bass clef reading.

But with these first 3 exercises that I did today - I figured out how to play each one, played through a few times, then turned on the drum machine and played along with that. After a couple of play throughs I would do a little improvisation around the main bass line to make it more interesting. I think with 5-10 play throughs I was able to get each of them down pretty well. Even the first one is interesting enough to play around with - definitely not starting off with simple half and quarter notes like some entry books.

If I have more insights to add later as I work through them I'll be sure to follow up.
 
I've been working with these a couple of weeks now, maybe 1/2 to 1 hour each day.

I think there are a lot of great exercises and basslines that are really fun to learn and play. They are really forcing me to learn to read and I'm making good progress there. What I want to get to is to have no mental translation between the note on the staff and where my fingers go. This is working for some notes but others I have to think about. With a little more work I think I'll get pretty far along in that area though.

There are a few issues with the books, or maybe a few things I would change.

1) The two I've used so far really needed a solid round of editing and review before publication. The Entry Level book seems to be a little worse than what I call "Book 1" (Finger Funk Bass). A lot of the chord markings are missing - like part of a song has them and part of it doesn't. This is basic stuff editing would pick up.

2) Hints about where to play some notes would be very helpful. You can figure some out for yourself, and I've started adding my own markings when I need to play some notes up or down the board to prep for what comes next. Just seems like these books would benefit a lot by very small amount of notes and guidance on how to play.

3) I am a little annoyed by the missing gratuitous accidentals, as I call them. I mean the ones that are often included at the start of a measure to remind you of an accidental specified by the key that was marked neutral in the previous measure. I'm adding them myself, but to play in a sight reading scenario these are just nice to have.

4) My experience with bass guitar annotation is weak (I'm just learning now) but I think some amount of marks for hammer-on, pull-off and other type of non-fingered notes would be nice and helpful. Again, I'm penciling these in myself, but to have included some of these would have made the books more complete. I

5) There are some note errors. Maybe there were errata pages in the forum that is now shut down. This is another editing problem that could have been fixed, though it would likely require an independent reader who would also listen to the recordings. I've had to add a replacement measure with a sticky note in one place since the correction couldn't be written.

So overall these are fun books and I'm learning a lot, especially reading bass clef and learning the fingerboard. I think they could have been much better learning resource with just a little more editing effort, details, and directions to the player. It would be awesome to see a second release with these kind of changes, but sadly that seems very unlikely now.
 
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Jim's later series of books didnt come with CDs, just the download playalongs. A big part of Jim's teaching method was "copying the masters" which is why I believe he created the tracks with him playing the lines. By playing along with him you will be copying not only the notes, but the feel, phrasing and articulations. The tracks can also be used to copy the line by ear rather than using the notation in the book. Transcribing by ear was another one of Jim's core methods.

Have fun. Jim's study materials are golden.

Jim's study materials have and continue to help me tremendously. As I learn by playing with him, I found myself also dialing in my bass (especially P-bass) to sound like his and therefore could fine tune the dynamics of my notes with his.
 
I've been working with these a couple of weeks now, maybe 1/2 to 1 hour each day.

I think there are a lot of great exercises and basslines that are really fun to learn and play. They are really forcing me to learn to read and I'm making good progress there. What I want to get to is to have no mental translation between the note on the staff and where my fingers go. This is working for some notes but others I have to think about. With a little more work I think I'll get pretty far along in that area though.

There are a few issues with the books, or maybe a few things I would change.

1) The two I've used so far really needed a solid round of editing and review before publication. The Entry Level book seems to be a little worse than what I call "Book 1" (Finger Funk Bass). A lot of the chord markings are missing - like part of a song has them and part of it doesn't. This is basic stuff editing would pick up.

2) Hints about where to play some notes would be very helpful. You can figure some out for yourself, and I've started adding my own markings when I need to play some notes up or down the board to prep for what comes next. Just seems like these books would benefit a lot by very small amount of notes and guidance on how to play.

3) I am a little annoyed by the missing gratuitous accidentals, as I call them. I mean the ones that are often included at the start of a measure to remind you of an accidental specified by the key that was marked neutral in the previous measure. I'm adding them myself, but to play in a sight reading scenario these are just nice to have.

4) My experience with bass guitar annotation is weak (I'm just learning now) but I think some amount of marks for hammer-on, pull-off and other type of non-fingered notes would be nice and helpful. Again, I'm penciling these in myself, but to have included some of these would have made the books more complete. I

5) There are some note errors. Maybe there were errata pages in the forum that is now shut down. This is another editing problem that could have been fixed, though it would likely require an independent reader who would also listen to the recordings. I've had to add a replacement measure with a sticky note in one place since the correction couldn't be written.

So overall these are fun books and I'm learning a lot, especially reading bass clef and learning the fingerboard. I think they could have been much better learning resource with just a little more editing effort, details, and directions to the player. It would be awesome to see a second release with these kind of changes, but sadly that seems very unlikely now.


Regarding your recommendations/changes that could improve the books, have you thought of sending a nice letter to the company noting the same. They may want to take it on... As we know, Jim is gone but his legacy in music can be enlarged (IMHO) if his company continues and is even improved. I know of several professionals (other fields) who passed on, but their heirs and business associates improved the body of work left and now those companies are more impactful. ...just a thought. Peace.
 
Regarding your recommendations/changes that could improve the books, have you thought of sending a nice letter to the company noting the same. They may want to take it on... As we know, Jim is gone but his legacy in music can be enlarged (IMHO) if his company continues and is even improved. I know of several professionals (other fields) who passed on, but their heirs and business associates improved the body of work left and now those companies are more impactful. ...just a thought. Peace.

Thanks that's a good idea. What I may do is collect detailed errata and recommendations and send them in as a collection. Might take a little time but I wouldn't mind passing the info along.
 
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Jim's later series of books didnt come with CDs, just the download playalongs. A big part of Jim's teaching method was "copying the masters" which is why I believe he created the tracks with him playing the lines. By playing along with him you will be copying not only the notes, but the feel, phrasing and articulations. The tracks can also be used to copy the line by ear rather than using the notation in the book. Transcribing by ear was another one of Jim's core methods.

Have fun. Jim's study materials are golden.

Agreed. I like to think that after playing primarily by ear for 40-years, my ear is above average. ...playing along w/ Jim helped my phrasing and articulation significantly. It also helped improve my sound on a P-bass with flats. Peace.