Stoner/Doom Bassist Thread Part 13: The Lost Thread

[mc_muench]

dont you mean clean shirt blend? HAHA

 

[dunwichamps]

trololol maybe

poor john not even on to defend himself

 

[Rushing]

Brand? normally JJ

Type? Depends on the gain and circuit.

Thanks! Ever thought about doing a tube pedal?

 

[dunwichamps]

Thanks! Ever thought about doing a tube pedal?

i get that question from time to time, it would be extremely $$$ so it would have to be a very custom thing

 

[mc_muench]

I want this tube pedal...from my crazy russian friend at Correct Sounds Custom

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[nick g.]

Hay guise. I assume y'all like some doom? Check out my now-defunct band's EP!

http://khentydoom.bandcamp.com/

You can have 30 minutes of doom in three tracks for $1! I'm especially proud of 'The Storm'. Enjoy!

 

[bassboysam]

For those that don't know, my Avatar represents the recently departed Stompin' Tom Connors. A Canadian legend and all around badass. Picture Johnny Cash except Tom actually lived or experienced everything he ever sang about. First concert i ever attended was Stompin' Tom. I was 11 years old and it was Canada Day in Brockville ON.

 

[dozicusmaximus]

That old fart thread is amazing.

Johnny Cash, didn't kill a man in Reno? Just to watch him die?

 

[mc_muench]

TB DOOM room exclusive...this song was basically written as soon as we turned our amps on tonight. Like the DOOM stork dropped us a riff and now we're trying to figure out what to do with it.

https://soundcloud.com/mcmuench/new-new-song-in-progress/s-ceNgR

 

[dcarwin]

And for the record I haven't owned a stand alone OSD. I do have an OSD with the LED mod, clean blend, and 2 drive settings being built into a box with a Grey Stache with a diode switch. Hopefully it should be coming my way soon. Real excited for that.

Ron,
Can you describe what you are going/hoping to get out of the LED mod and diode switch? I've got a RT now with the three-way clipping toggle, and I'm wondering if it's the same idea in the OSD or not. [The idea being that the LED clipping is some nasty-edged distortion]. Is it basically the same kind of toggle being built into an OSD instead of the Rat Tail, including the "no diode" option?

For the record here's my RT:

 

[dcarwin]

Listening to Diary of a Madman, fvck all you

Hopefully with the original rhythm section.

 

[Ron Now]

Ron,
Can you describe what you are going/hoping to get out of the LED mod and diode switch? I've got a RT now with the three-way clipping toggle, and I'm wondering if it's the same idea in the OSD or not. [The idea being that the LED clipping is some nasty-edged distortion]. Is it basically the same kind of toggle being built into an OSD instead of the Rat Tail, including the "no diode" option?

Hey the LED mod is something Ry is doing now as an option on the OSD (I think still by request), replaces the stock clipping option for an LED which gives the pedal "a less compressed and more open sound" I figured I already had the normal OSD circuit as part of my DK and love it. So I'd go with the variation for more tonal options in the double pedal. The LED mod is not switchable, it's one way or the other.

The GS side of the pedal has the diode options, I'm guessing it'll be similar to the RT switch as mine is gonna have an LED/No Diode/Silicon.

 

[dcarwin]

Thanks Ron. Have to say today was a hell of a day for sound clips. Good sh!t all around. I'd love to hear a bass through the new Dunwich fuzz. (The guitar was so good.)

 

[dunwichamps]

i am not sure if people caught that discussion the other day about clippers but I will summarize again.

LEDs end up having less gainy, less compressed sound because they have a large threshold voltage then a silicon diode. Generally a Si diode has a threshold voltage of 0.7V but a LED can have anywhere from like 1.4V to 3V+ threshold voltage. The threshold voltage is imporant because it says what the amplitude needs to exceed before the waveform will be clipped. This in a symmetric Si diode clipping circuit, the positive and negative parts of the waveform will clip at 0.7V and -0.7V respectively. In a symmetric LED clipper, the positve and negative parts of the waveform will clip at 1.4V and -1.4V in the case of say a diffuse red LED where as for a bright white LED probably more like 2.6V and -2.6V. Thus much less gain, more output volume since the waveform can have a larger amplitude and less compression.

 

[dcarwin]

Thanks Nick, appreciate the explanation.

 

[dunwichamps]

Thanks Nick, appreciate the explanation.

no problem, Any to further extend this, if you stack diodes in series you raise the effective threshold of the entire clipping circuit. So if you have 2 Si diodes in series then the overall threshold for clipping is 0.7V + 0.7V = 1.4V.

I merely wanted to give the idea some foundation. Its not that LEDs are inherently that way, its more of a mathematical thing.

 

[dozicusmaximus]

Hmmm... I actually understood that, for the most part. haha

 

[dunwichamps]

nice man. Its gets more complex when you start to talk about soft vs hard clipping and symmetric vs asymmetric clipping tho. For example RAT is hard clipping, and Muff is soft clipping even tho both use symmetric Si clipping

 

[DethByDoom]

Npd! My osd+rat tail came today. Looks right at home.

 

[Rushing]

hahah thats the best kid paint version I have seen!