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Stoner/DOOM Bassists Part 83: WHAT YEAR IS IT?

****ing sleep last night was awesome. Period. Riffage nirvana. One piece of merch was a pillowcase( get it sleep, pillowcase.) Couldn't bring myself to pay $30 for a pillowcase, but still cool. Bought a shirt and a sleep volume 2 vinyl. I'm still riding high. Most pot smoke I think I ever experienced at a show. Probably had something to do with the fact that it's now legal. Just a guess. My only complaint is that pike wore a shirt the entire show, but that's only a minor complaint
 
I'm not the biggest fan of Kirk or Dax in there respective bands much as vocalists, but dig the music, I really like mike III and his vocals, I'm also liking Sourvein. What's other good sludge, and what's goods Soilents green to YouTubes?

Blasphemy!!!! Both the acid bath albums are awesome and the best crowbar is odd fellows rest.

For soilent green I'd start with pussysoul then move on to sewn mouth secrets. They are the easiest to get into because the later soilent green stuff is not for everyone. Slightly less palatable to the un-initiated.

Two I'd suggest to start off are
keep crawling
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cIaEl-JN6EI&desktop_uri=/watch?v=cIaEl-JN6EI
Pussysoul is really the only one of their albums that features the truely deep almost death metal like vocals, but it's very fitting and adds to the crushing delivery of the tracks.

& it was just an accident
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MaWTtD7Ohqc

The groovy part at the end is more prevalent on sewn mouth secrets then any of their other albums and that's really what drew me to them. I find that album best consumed in its entirety to really get what soilent green is about.

While I'm suggesting videos thought I'd throw a few more in.

Dope fiend by acid bath
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p36RU_5Dzjs
All time favorite band. They honestly shaped my life at the age of 12 through 16. That combined with hallucinogens formed the man I became. The slower portion in the beginning with the harmonics is just f-ing awesome.

Sky inferno by goatwhore
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UHSo8kK3Uw4
Ben the singer of soilent green and Sammy the guitarist from acid bath and crowbar odd fellows rest. I couldn't get into any of the album's after funeral dirge for the rotting sun, but FDFTRS is awesome and is exactly as the album name proclaims. A funeral dirge.

I'll stop there. Enjoy my teenage years.
 
Great FM practice tonight. Found a marvelous sounding straight in tone while using my Peavey Standard tonight, since the Vulcan is getting fixed. I just have the channels jumped to drive more low end. Perfect amount of sustain and fuzziness with no over whelming feedback, no feedback at all really. Just had to dial the front pup on my Ric back a smidge with everything else wide open. And when running just the bridge pup, piano like high end ring. Just not nearly enough bass. Me like deep bass.
 
I dig the looks of them, but yeah they seem like they'd get pretty banged up if you were carrying it around to gigs. I guess that's what the case is for. Local stoner band Droids Attack's bass player uses a Verellen head and two gigantic emperor cabs. Sounds pretty killer.
 
Question for you guys familiar with tubes. So I run a Peavey vb-2 and this is the first tube head I have owned. I've seen it suggested multiple times to run tubes with a master volume maxed out/almost maxed and regulate the volume with the gain. Well I don't quite do that but in order to keep up I run it anywhere between roughly 2 o'clock and 3 o'clock and gain run to my liking for tone. I get a pretty fuzzed out tone and my gain knob only slightly affects the amount of fuzz. Now while I like the fuzz I get, I can't help but wonder if I should be getting more clean headroom. The tone goes from a flavor of od to fuzz at roughly 12-1 o'clock of the master volume knob. All this happens without Amy effects engaged. I wonder if that is a characteristic of this head. I play my bass and effects chain through the low gain input and clean channel with both my passive T-40 and 18v active Spector. (I'm fairly new to effects, but I suspect that by time the signal goes through my effects, specifically the overdrive>fuzz, and gets to the front of the amp. There's not that much of a difference in the amount of gain between passive & active. I haven't done any research on that, so it'd just my assumption) Also, the tubes are Mullard reissues with about 10hrs on them. (reason for the Mullard reissue, is this was the only matching sextet the tech had on hand when he replaced them and I didn't have time to wait to order a different brand.) The capacitors were also replaced when it was serviced and everything else was working properly. As always, I really appreciate the input.
 
Timm Grimm
What's happening is that around 12-1 o'clock you are overdriving the pre-amp tubes.
I think you need to understand what your dials are doing better.Here's a simple diagram

Bass--->*1->Pre amp>--->*2->power amp>---->speaker cabinet>--->doomfuzzness

*1: gain dial sits here *2: master volume sits here
So your gain control adjusts how sensitive the input of your pre-amp is.More gain,the more you are overdriving your pre-amp tubes.The master volume sits after the pre-amp,and acts to meter the volume coming out of the pre-amp.
This is so you can drive your pre amp into the ground without blowing your ears off.The master volume simply affects how much signal goes through to your power amp.
So setting the master volume at max effectively gets rid of it entirely.
Find the gain setting that works for you,then adjust the master to suit the situation.The only way to overdrive those power amp tubes is play loud and bassy!
Also,your active spector has a higher output than your peavey T-40,which is why there might be an active input,which is just the same,but with the gain already toned down a bit.
I love my t-40.Play it on the neck pick-up in humbucker mode,roast your gain,crank the bass,cut the treble and dial up the master.You'll be in heaven-or hell-which ever one you're after.
Hope that helps
 
Timm Grimm
What's happening is that around 12-1 o'clock you are overdriving the pre-amp tubes.
I think you need to understand what your dials are doing better.Here's a simple diagram

Bass--->*1->Pre amp>--->*2->power amp>---->speaker cabinet>--->doomfuzzness

*1: gain dial sits here *2: master volume sits here
So your gain control adjusts how sensitive the input of your pre-amp is.More gain,the more you are overdriving your pre-amp tubes.The master volume sits after the pre-amp,and acts to meter the volume coming out of the pre-amp.
This is so you can drive your pre amp into the ground without blowing your ears off.The master volume simply affects how much signal goes through to your power amp.
So setting the master volume at max effectively gets rid of it entirely.
Find the gain setting that works for you,then adjust the master to suit the situation.The only way to overdrive those power amp tubes is play loud and bassy!
Also,your active spector has a higher output than your peavey T-40,which is why there might be an active input,which is just the same,but with the gain already toned down a bit.
I love my t-40.Play it on the neck pick-up in humbucker mode,roast your gain,crank the bass,cut the treble and dial up the master.You'll be in heaven-or hell-which ever one you're after.
Hope that helps
Hey, thanks for the response. This is exactly my understanding of it. I just didn't think my gain knob would need to be around 9 o'clock or less. I'll have to mess with it more. (although I've done this a great deal already.) Yeah the t-40 rocks.
 
So board is done for the metal band
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I kinda have room for a ped still. Any suggestions?