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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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Mudd, that project sounds awesome, I'd love to hear it when you think it's ready for listening.


Cool. I'll at least post a link to Bandcamp when that's up. The other guy is doing ALL of that. He's paying for the vinyl and other stuff, he's doing the webpage, he is even doing paintings for the covers. He is about the finest living artist I know--guy can do anything from build a deck, porch or furniture for you, paint, sculpt (even glass, which is a b!tch--he also does clay, pours bronze, etc.) built his own forge and makes custom knives, builds gourd banjos from scratch, screes shirts from scratch, photography and film, you name it. He's also come up with some killer tunes for us. I'm also sending him some raw tracks of me playing basslines I've come up with along with a click track so it varies our sound a little and increases our output, but man...he's good. His guitar sound is awesome...just a Danelectro U1 one-pickup reissue through an old Kalamazoo tube amp that's older than hell. Plus reverb, trem, etc.

Sorry to off about this--just so excited. It's been 15 years since I've done anything like this. Having such a blast. Now I just gotta find some people to jam in person and play live with.

Guitar players are blowing up my inbox with songs. SO MANY SONGS. We need to narrow this stuff down and get some focus going.

Is it good stuff? I'm always reluctant to jettison material unless it just doesn't grab me in some way at all. Like, pick the stuff that makes you go "Yeah! that'll work...that's something there..." and set the other stuff aside to maybe work on down the road.

Don't mean to sound like I'm telling what to do...it's hard to work with people. It'd be pretty hard for me to work on original material with people I wasn't pretty damn close to. Me and the guy I'm doing the garage thing with have known each other 30 years (jeez damn...it really HAS been 30 years. W.T.F?!?!?!) and have played in bands or made music long distance that entire time. Our last project was experimental analog synth drone stuff along with some pretty harsh electronic noise with beats.

Maybe it comes from primarily being a bass player for so long, but I do find players of other instruments hard to work with sometimes. Drummers in particular, but man, if you get a guitar player(s) with too much of that primadonna star attitude, I'm gone.
 
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Killer. I got to meet and talk with Watt a couple times. One of my earliest bands was supposed to open for Minutemen in Tulsa back around '83-'84 but the show was cancelled, or maybe several dates. Anyways, they never did play Tulsa as far as I know. And I never saw Minutemen live.

I did get to see Black Flag in '84 and '85--the My War and Slip It In tours. Openers included St. Vitus, Gone, Painted Willie...

Watt I met first in '86 when he was in fIREHOSE opening for Sonic Youth at the University of OK student union. Saw them again in Tulsa a year or two later and got to rap with him a little more. You better believe Watt (and Minutemen) were highly influential to me. So many summer days of the 80s ill-spent smoking headache-inducing Mexican dirtweed and trying to learn to skateboard while Mintemen and other SST bands blasted from a tape out of someone's boombox...
 
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Cool. I'll at least post a link to Bandcamp when that's up. The other guy is doing ALL of that. He's paying for the vinyl and other stuff, he's doing the webpage, he is even doing paintings for the covers. He is about the finest living artist I know--guy can do anything from build a deck, porch or furniture for you, paint, sculpt (even glass, which is a b!tch--he also does clay, pours bronze, etc.) built his own forge and makes custom knives, builds gourd banjos from scratch, screes shirts from scratch, photography and film, you name it. He's also come up with some killer tunes for us. I'm also sending him some raw tracks of me playing basslines I've come up with along with a click track so it varies our sound a little and increases our output, but man...he's good. His guitar sound is awesome...just a Danelectro U1 one-pickup reissue through an old Kalamazoo tube amp that's older than hell. Plus reverb, trem, etc.

Sorry to off about this--just so excited. It's been 15 years since I've done anything like this. Having such a blast. Now I just gotta find some people to jam in person and play live with.



Is it good stuff? I'm always reluctant to jettison material unless it just doesn't grab me in some way at all. Like, pick the stuff that makes you go "Yeah! that'll work...that's something there..." and set the other stuff aside to maybe work on down the road.

Don't mean to sound like I'm telling what to do...it's hard to work with people. It'd be pretty hard for me to work on original material with people I wasn't pretty damn close to. Me and the guy I'm doing the garage thing with have known each other 30 years (jeez damn...it really HAS been 30 years. ***?!?!?!) and have played in bands or made music long distance that entire time. Our last project was experimental analog synth drone stuff along with some pretty harsh electronic noise with beats.

Maybe it comes from primarily being a bass player for so long, but I do find players of other instruments hard to work with sometimes. Drummers in particular, but man, if you get a guitar player(s) with too much of that primadonna star attitude, I'm gone.

90% of everything I've heard is more than decent and could easily be made awesome by adding the rest of the band. Best thing about it - zero ego to deal with from anyone. Everyone is very talented, but very humble and open to new ideas. I just wish we had more than 2.5-3.5 hours in a week to get together and work on stuff. We email files around I sometimes record bass parts - or at the very least play along to everything as written when I'm at home. Everybody's busy and got a ton of stuff going on so it's hard.

We just need to nail down 35-40 minutes of material, crank out a demo and start playing shows. Should be easy at this point, we're not lacking for material...
 
90% of everything I've heard is more than decent and could easily be made awesome by adding the rest of the band. Best thing about it - zero ego to deal with from anyone. Everyone is very talented, but very humble and open to new ideas. I just wish we had more than 2.5-3.5 hours in a week to get together and work on stuff. We email files around I sometimes record bass parts - or at the very least play along to everything as written when I'm at home. Everybody's busy and got a ton of stuff going on so it's hard.

We just need to nail down 35-40 minutes of material, crank out a demo and start playing shows. Should be easy at this point, we're not lacking for material...

That's cool. Dammit, there are countries we could all be living in where our artistic pursuits would be subsidized by the government. We wouldn't have to give one-third of our lives over to working meaningless jobs with little compensation!

Yeah, no egos sounds great. I've rarely had that--where there hasn't been a problem with someone's ego, or someone just being flaky or whatever, but then again most of my gigging and interacting with other players in the flesh (no homo) was in my teens and 20s. I think most people tend to grow out of that stuff at some point and serve the music.

It's good to have an excess of material. I hope you guys can clank it and crank it. Get something out there and then get yourselves out there. The stuff I hear on this thread from posters here with bands going....it's just kick@ss. It pretty much all lays waste to 99% of the stuff floating around out there, whether it be the heaviness or any other kind of music.

Time is always the tough one. Getting everyone together when they are free all at the same time. The older you get, the harder that seems to be for some reason.
 
90% of everything I've heard is more than decent and could easily be made awesome by adding the rest of the band. Best thing about it - zero ego to deal with from anyone. Everyone is very talented, but very humble and open to new ideas. I just wish we had more than 2.5-3.5 hours in a week to get together and work on stuff. We email files around I sometimes record bass parts - or at the very least play along to everything as written when I'm at home. Everybody's busy and got a ton of stuff going on so it's hard.

We just need to nail down 35-40 minutes of material, crank out a demo and start playing shows. Should be easy at this point, we're not lacking for material...

You're lucky, man. We've been playing almost year and a half together now and we've got like 2 songs finished. We've scrubbed quite a lot stuff along the way, but it's kinda depressing sometimes that we can only get stuff done at the practice. I tried to meet up with my guitarist to jam and come up with something, but it never got nowhere. I also tried to send files with my best ideas to the guys, but it also hardly gets anything done.
I know that we're all 30-something guys with (kind of) regular lives and we're not in a hurry, but I'd love to get the stuff we play to to people.
 
Just received an email from the pedal builder I have had some significant time issues with. My boxes should be shipping out tomorrow AND he is attempting to make amends in a BIG way, by upgrading one of the pedals I ordered and throwing in a third pedal free of charge. If everything he has promised is true, I will be pretty floored by the generosity. As frustrating as the whole situation has been, I have been very polite and non-aggressive in all of our correspondence. Should be a very exciting triple NPD here in a few days. Again, if the commitments hold water.


In other news, I got an email yesterday regarding my dually. Good news is the box is finished. Bad news is the speakers were backordered until the first week of September, which was just pushed back to early October. Pretty bummed about that but all in all I guess that not that big of a deal. Just gotta use my 810 for the shows I have this month. I may try to borrow the 810 that lives at one of the venues and use it in addition to mine. 875w to each of two 810s could be pretty ****ing cool and poopie inducing.
 

By "********" they mean young-earth creationists, right?

Your poor purple starfish

I think of it more as the Devil's Onion Ring...

Guys, looks like moving out of OK may be off the table for awhile, but I believe I am going to get a job offer within the next week-10 days for a little town near Tulsa AND I have an interview coming up Thursday in a town about 15 miles down the road from where I am now (I used to work at the DHS in the same town...just enough of a commute to not be too expensive or a pain in the hmmph, but long enough to jam some music loud on the way to/from to get my head right.)

The second job, should I get an offer, would mean we don't have to move, and that would save us a lot. It'd be nice living near Tulsa (and closer to Fayetteville, which is probably the coolest town in this region IMO) but I don't know how we'd swing it anyway.

At any rate, both of these jobs would net us some more income and both of them are for Library Director, so I'd be the macaroni and it would beef up my resume. Even being Library Director in a pissant OK town counts for something and if I did it for a few years I bet I could land a job in another state pretty easily.

All this to say, mojo for Muddslide.

I realize EVERY job entails dealing with some BS, but if I don't get away from my current boss and out of Youth Services, I am gonna start making that dreaded pendulum swing from suicidal to homicidal.
 
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@Muddslide That Epi Ripper was absolutely radical but it (and my Mexi-P) had to go to make way for the Chinabacker. What I liked about the Epi Ripper is its beefiness compared to the Gibson. Wouldn't mind owning another maybe one day.

Yeah, the Chinabacker was a good call for sure. Seems like you got right down to work getting busy with that. I'd love to have a 4001 copy, if I could find another one with a bolt-on neck especially.

Yer right too--those Epi Rippers had bodies that seemed MUCH bigger than the original Gibbys. I'm a big dude (less so now than I used to be, but still...) so I liked the extra bulk, but they still weren't all that heavy. Certainly not near as heavy as my Lotus P.