• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

We arent playing with a drum that big but lots of bands do. What exactly are the issues youre having with it?
IMO it's a bit muddy and the pitch is too high. At the present time the resonant head is not ported, which may worsen things.
I read that the problem with muddiness is that the beater can't hit the center so it vibrates a bit with the head... And you only fix it with technique :cautious: which my drummer doesn't have (yet)
I think the higher pitch may depend on the tuning (I expected a larger drum to sound lower actually...), maybe the heads are tight to compensate the low tension with broader diameter... I dunno, I see a lot od things we have to fix to make it sound decent. Not good. Decent.
I don't know why he didn't listen to me, this kick will be a PITA for sure.
 
IMO it's a bit muddy and the pitch is too high. At the present time the resonant head is not ported, which may worsen things.
I read that the problem with muddiness is that the beater can't hit the center so it vibrates a bit with the head... And you only fix it with technique :cautious: which my drummer doesn't have (yet)
I think the higher pitch may depend on the tuning (I expected a larger drum to sound lower actually...), maybe the heads are tight to compensate the low tension with broader diameter... I dunno, I see a lot od things we have to fix to make it sound decent. Not good. Decent.
I don't know why he didn't listen to me, this kick will be a PITA for sure.

Ah yeah im sure at first itll have a learning curve. When we started recording drums i bought a tunebot and started tuning our drummers kit to a b minor chord since we tend to play in that key. Looks like a 26 inch drum tunes to c or c# normally. Also making sure you get the muting right makes a huge difference. Having a pillow or blanket touching the kick head can help mute some of the upper harmonics.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: oZZma
Ah yeah im sure at first itll have a learning curve. When we started recording drums i bought a tunebot and started tuning our drummers kit to a b minor chord since we tend to play in the that key. Looks like a 26 inch drum tunes to c or c# normally. Also making sure you get the muting right makes a huge difference. Having a pillow or blanket touching the kick head can help mute some of the upper harmonics.
I read discordant reviews about the tunebot on Thomann, but I'm taking it into consideration now. That "thing" is unmanageable if not tuned properly, which I doubt is easy to do by ear. :atoz:
 
I read discordant reviews about the tunebot on Thomann, but I'm taking it into consideration now. That "thing" is unmanageable if not tuned properly, which I doubt is easy to do by ear. :atoz:

Yeah i have mixed feelings about both the tunebot and the drum dial. Ive used both, the drum dial is great for being able to conistently keep your drums sounding the same. Tune it by ear then record the tensions. The tunebot has been an experiment weve been trying and so far its been really consistent as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: oZZma
Yeah i have mixed feelings about both the tunebot and the drum dial. Ive used both, the drum dial is great for being able to conistently keep your drums sounding the same. Tune it by ear then record the tensions. The tunebot has been an experiment weve been trying and so far its been really consistent as well.
It will probably be my christmas present to my my drummer... Thanks :D
 
  • Like
Reactions: Novarocker
Hey friends. Last night I decided to try doing some sort of solo bass adaptation of Earth's "Bee's Made Honey in the Lion's Skull." I decided to record it for the hell of it and to see what you think about whether I'm close or not (I did this by ear, and I've never done that before). Note that I've been playing for less than a year (though the one year anniversary of me starting is pretty soon), so temper your expectations accordingly. Obviously this is not the whole song, and not to any semblance of time.
 

Attachments

Hey friends. Last night I decided to try doing some sort of solo bass adaptation of Earth's "Bee's Made Honey in the Lion's Skull." I decided to record it for the hell of it and to see what you think about whether I'm close or not (I did this by ear, and I've never done that before). Note that I've been playing for less than a year (though the one year anniversary of me starting is pretty soon), so temper your expectations accordingly. Obviously this is not the whole song, and not to any semblance of time.

Nice, love Earth, and "The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull" is my second favorite album of theirs after "Hex; Or Printing in the Infernal Method".

You did a very good job. :thumbsup:

Rock on! :bassist:
 
  • Like
Reactions: lucas303
Hmm, @oZZma : My drummer switches between his Rodgers with a 20" kick and our singer's Ludwigs with a huge (I think 26") kick. The kick does sound huge (he has lots of technique), his problems were with the Lud's tom sounds. I'd say try to stick with it and try to adjust the beater out as far as you can. That Ludwig kick sounds great, but then again it's an acoustic instrument, one might not sound like the other. He's still arguing with the toms, but he and I hope the new, more dead room will help.

On the pedal front, I've only had a few hours with this pedal, and I've only played guitar through it, but I loves it. I kind of want to take it to bed with me and cuddle with it. I kind of think it might surpass my Super-Fuzz as my favorite fuzz. That's almost like saying I'd like to change my gender or actually accomplishing quitting smoking. I've loved the Super-Fuzz for decades. This has far more flavors, and is nasty in all of them. I don't pretend to comprehend the circuit, it's a maze of at least 7 transistors, a bunch of caps and a herd or two of resistors. He's already made the Redrum a regular pedal you can order. If this doesn't become one, I will think the world is completely stupid.

ol_switcheroo.jpg


Edited to add: yeah, I'm probably going to skip the other "difficult" pedals in this series and do a vid of this one instead. It's just luscious and easy to love. Even its harsh settings sound good.
 
finished tracking most of the parts for our next album. need to finish some lead guitar parts and then some synth earcandy sort of stuff. recording sounds good so far, we went with a pretty live and raw sound. not a lot of close micing and no click track. sounds pretty good to me although i am a bit worried that musucally it's not too different from the last record. i think we kind of finally found our sound after 10 years, but i guess that's not the worst thing we could do.

for the next one we're aiming to really strech ourselves.
 
Last edited: