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, that's the name I very imaginative named the amp, after removing the original brand)
I am interested to hear all this in action.My "amp-less" setup:
My signal chain explained in written form (currently in the process of rearranging my setup, so this is preliminary basic setup, only consisting of my always on, basic "clean" tone, pedals, my dirt pedals, and the NUX delay, modulation and other special effects has not been set up yet) :
(*pedals listed in [ red/bold/underline text ] are "always on" effects*)
4 string 28.6" scale Ibanez GSRM20B Mikro Bass (equipped with an EMG Geezer Butler P pickup, and strung with Elixir Nanoweb coated nickel-plated roundwound hex steel core guitar strings, gauge .080 - .062 - .046 - .032, tuned in tenor/baritone bass, G# standard, tuning, that is one half step bellow the upper 4 strings of a 6 string bass in regular B standard tuning) ->
->> XVive Undulator (tremolo pedal, but never actually engaged and used exclusively for its great buffer) ->> EHX Black Finger (tube driven optical compressor, with 2 preamp tubes operating at proper high 300V plate voltage, primarily functioning as a tube preamp stage, driven to just at the edge of the tubes's breakup point, but with some very subtle compression dialed in as well) ->> TC Electronic Sub'N'Up Mini (for adding a 1 octave up, mimicking an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string bass, using a custom made Toneprint) ->> EHX English Muff'n (Marshall like medium gain overdrive) ->> Boss LS-2 [A+B Mix <-> Bypass] (parallel effect loops mixer/switch) ={ [Loop A Send] ->> Mosky Black Rat (RAT clone, in Turbo RAT, LED diode clipping, mode, quite raunchy, fuzz-esque, high gain distortion, sometimes stacked into the Behringer fuzz in front of it, and always mixed with the Joyo Orange Juice orverdrive or {Orange Juice -> Metal Zone} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz (Boss FZ-2/Univox Superfuzz clone, octave fuzz, always used with the Mosky Black Rat stacked into it, and always mixed with the Joyo Orange Juice orverdrive or {Orange Juice -> Metal Zone} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> [Loop A Return] ->|+|<- [Loop B Send] ->> Joyo Orange Juice (Orange amp like medium gain overdrive, always mixed with either the Black Rat or {Black Rat -> Super Fuzz} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> Boss MT-2 Metal Zone (dialed in with a medium gain distortion, always mixed with either the Black Rat or {Black Rat -> Super Fuzz} from parallel effects [Loop B], and always with the Orange Juice in front of it stacked into it) ->> [Loop B Return] ([Loop A] + [Loop B] mixed at an approximate 70/30 ratio) => [LS-2 Output] }=>->> Boss LS-2 [A+B Mix <-> Bypass] (parallel effect loops mixer/switch) ={ [Loop A Send] ->> Joyo Oxford Sound (clone of the Tech 21 Oxford, which is an all analog emulation of an Orange Amp type preamp, dialed in to deliver a low gain overdrive, always used blended with "clean" signal from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> [Loop A Return] ->|+|<- [Loop B Send] ->> ([Loops B] empty, used to blend in "clean" signal) ->> [Loop B Return] ([Loop A] + [Loop B] mixed at an approximate 50/50 ratio) => [LS-2 Output] }=>->> Zoom B1Xon (used predominantly as reverb and delay unit, with various different reverb and delay patches, including my always on {very subtle Plate Reverb -> subtle Spring Reverb} reverb patch that is part of my basic "clean" tone, and beside that, among others, an extremely thick, lush reverb patch, used as a pad effect with volume swells from the build in expression pedal, and a trippy reverse delay patch, though also used for a couple of additional other effects, including a prominent "wah" pedal patch) ->> Behringer UM300 Ultra Metal (Metal Zone clone, post reverb high gain distortion, often used stacked into the Orange Juice in front of it) ->> Joyo Orange Juice (Orange amp like post reverb medium gain overdrive) ->> NUX Tape Core Deluxe (amazing digital emulation of the legendary Roland RE-201 Space Echo tape delay) ->> NUX (NBP-5) Melvin Lee Davis Bass Preamp + DI (loaded with a digitally emulated Aguilar Tone Hammer amp, and an Ampeg SVT-212AV IR cab simulation, with HPF @ 40Hz, LPF @ 14kHz, and a subtle low gain overdrive blended in at a 50/50 clean/drive ratio) ->
->> ART Tube MP Project Series (tube preamp and DI, with build in HPF, fixed @ 40Hz, engaged, tube driven to just on the verge of breakup point) ->
// ->> Band rehearsal/jamming/gigging // ->> Home practice // ->> Home recordings // :
// ->> Band rehearsal/jamming/gigging ->> Effects Return (poweramp input) of a Peavey Solo Special 112 (160W combo amp, with the build in speaker disconnect and instead hooked up to a passive PA speaker) ->> The Box PA 502 (passive full range flat frequency response PA speaker with 1x 15" woofer/mids driver + 1.7" high frequency tweeter horn (crossover 2.3kHz)) // ->> Home practice ->> The T.Mix Mix 502 (mixer) ->> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (studio grade, that is FRFR, headphones) // ->> Home recordings ->> M-Audio Fast Track (audio interface) ->> Reaper (DAW) //
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Sounds super punchy, and the high gain distortion setup monstrously heavy and ballsy.
This is used for a solo stoner/doom rock project where the bass is the main instrument, with added played and programmed drums and percussion, vocals, plus some predominantly more flavor oriented additional instrumentation.
But the idea is that I would be able to play this live with a looper and a backing track, and/or a live real drummer.
I already got the bass parts and form ready for 9 songs, with working titles, and some early lyrics sketches, that is just waiting for me to start recoding and add vocals, drums and eventual additional instrumentation, meant for a full length Bandcamp release.
They’re Fender Showman clones, which happen to be pretty good bass amps. LOTS of lows on tap and ptp wiring means most techs actually like working on them. 100w 6L6 easily handles stage volumes, in my experience…but I also know it starts breaking up with the volume barely at 9:00 lol
And not to worry, this only led to a small water problem... So for the moment we have to have the OLD, useless refrigerator hooked up because the water line won't leak while attached, but because we're still waiting on the the NEW refrigerator's ice maker, AND none of the local stores has any sort of plug/cap in stock to plug the leak, we can't use the new one until we fix the underlying cause of the the leak, which is a bad valve installed by the previous owner. And that will require actual plumbing skills involving soldering, cutting the water pipes, etc.
Hehe, when I read this, I originally thought "Damn, another 8x10 bites the dust".
We caught it early enough to save the food, and were able to cram the necessities into an old mini fridge and our deep freezer. Just lost random sauces like worcestershire, soy, etc. so that was at least okay.
Ah, I also use this 5 string 28.6" scale GSRM25 Mikro Bass, also tuned in G# standard tuning, but with an extra upper gauge .024 high E string :My "amp-less" setup:
My signal chain explained in written form (currently in the process of rearranging my setup, so this is preliminary basic setup, only consisting of my always on, basic "clean" tone, pedals, my dirt pedals, and the NUX delay, modulation and other special effects has not been set up yet) :
(*pedals listed in [ red/bold/underline text ] are "always on" effects*)
4 string 28.6" scale Ibanez GSRM20B Mikro Bass (equipped with an EMG Geezer Butler P pickup, and strung with Elixir Nanoweb coated nickel-plated roundwound hex steel core guitar strings, gauge .080 - .062 - .046 - .032, tuned in tenor/baritone bass, G# standard, tuning, that is one half step bellow the upper 4 strings of a 6 string bass in regular B standard tuning) ->
->> XVive Undulator (tremolo pedal, but never actually engaged and used exclusively for its great buffer) ->> EHX Black Finger (tube driven optical compressor, with 2 preamp tubes operating at proper high 300V plate voltage, primarily functioning as a tube preamp stage, driven to just at the edge of the tubes's breakup point, but with some very subtle compression dialed in as well) ->> TC Electronic Sub'N'Up Mini (for adding a 1 octave up, mimicking an effect somewhat similar to that of an 8 string bass, using a custom made Toneprint) ->> EHX English Muff'n (Marshall like medium gain overdrive) ->> Boss LS-2 [A+B Mix <-> Bypass] (parallel effect loops mixer/switch) ={ [Loop A Send] ->> Mosky Black Rat (RAT clone, in Turbo RAT, LED diode clipping, mode, quite raunchy, fuzz-esque, high gain distortion, sometimes stacked into the Behringer fuzz in front of it, and always mixed with the Joyo Orange Juice orverdrive or {Orange Juice -> Metal Zone} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz (Boss FZ-2/Univox Superfuzz clone, octave fuzz, always used with the Mosky Black Rat stacked into it, and always mixed with the Joyo Orange Juice orverdrive or {Orange Juice -> Metal Zone} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> [Loop A Return] ->|+|<- [Loop B Send] ->> Joyo Orange Juice (Orange amp like medium gain overdrive, always mixed with either the Black Rat or {Black Rat -> Super Fuzz} from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> Boss MT-2 Metal Zone (dialed in with a medium gain distortion, always mixed with either the Black Rat or {Black Rat -> Super Fuzz} from parallel effects [Loop B], and always with the Orange Juice in front of it stacked into it) ->> [Loop B Return] ([Loop A] + [Loop B] mixed at an approximate 70/30 ratio) => [LS-2 Output] }=>->> Boss LS-2 [A+B Mix <-> Bypass] (parallel effect loops mixer/switch) ={ [Loop A Send] ->> Joyo Oxford Sound (clone of the Tech 21 Oxford, which is an all analog emulation of an Orange Amp type preamp, dialed in to deliver a low gain overdrive, always used blended with "clean" signal from parallel effects [Loop B]) ->> [Loop A Return] ->|+|<- [Loop B Send] ->> ([Loops B] empty, used to blend in "clean" signal) ->> [Loop B Return] ([Loop A] + [Loop B] mixed at an approximate 50/50 ratio) => [LS-2 Output] }=>->> Zoom B1Xon (used predominantly as reverb and delay unit, with various different reverb and delay patches, including my always on {very subtle Plate Reverb -> subtle Spring Reverb} reverb patch that is part of my basic "clean" tone, and beside that, among others, an extremely thick, lush reverb patch, used as a pad effect with volume swells from the build in expression pedal, and a trippy reverse delay patch, though also used for a couple of additional other effects, including a prominent "wah" pedal patch) ->> Behringer UM300 Ultra Metal (Metal Zone clone, post reverb high gain distortion, often used stacked into the Orange Juice in front of it) ->> Joyo Orange Juice (Orange amp like post reverb medium gain overdrive) ->> NUX Tape Core Deluxe (amazing digital emulation of the legendary Roland RE-201 Space Echo tape delay) ->> NUX (NBP-5) Melvin Lee Davis Bass Preamp + DI (loaded with a digitally emulated Aguilar Tone Hammer amp, and an Ampeg SVT-212AV IR cab simulation, with HPF @ 40Hz, LPF @ 14kHz, and a subtle low gain overdrive blended in at a 50/50 clean/drive ratio) ->
->> ART Tube MP Project Series (tube preamp and DI, with build in HPF, fixed @ 40Hz, engaged, tube driven to just on the verge of breakup point) ->
// ->> Band rehearsal/jamming/gigging // ->> Home practice // ->> Home recordings // :
// ->> Band rehearsal/jamming/gigging ->> Effects Return (poweramp input) of a Peavey Solo Special 112 (160W combo amp, with the build in speaker disconnect and instead hooked up to a passive PA speaker) ->> The Box PA 502 (passive full range flat frequency response PA speaker with 1x 15" woofer/mids driver + 1.7" high frequency tweeter horn (crossover 2.3kHz)) // ->> Home practice ->> The T.Mix Mix 502 (mixer) ->> Sennheiser HD 380 Pro (studio grade, that is FRFR, headphones) // ->> Home recordings ->> M-Audio Fast Track (audio interface) ->> Reaper (DAW) //
View attachment 7086335
Sounds super punchy, and the high gain distortion setup monstrously heavy and ballsy.
This is used for a solo stoner/doom rock project where the bass is the main instrument, with added played and programmed drums and percussion, vocals, plus some predominantly more flavor oriented additional instrumentation.
But the idea is that I would be able to play this live with a looper and a backing track, and/or a live real drummer.
I already got the bass parts and form ready for 9 songs, 6 regular, more or less traditional, stoner/doom rock songs, but mostly less traditional with elements of progressive/math rock, and 3 very melodic folky instrumentals, with working titles, and some early lyrics sketches, that is just waiting for me to start recoding and add drums, vocals and eventual additional instrumentation, meant for a full length Bandcamp release.
(But no, the project is not named "The Pea"
Thanks, man. Back in the day a friend of mine had a whole mess of vintage/generally older Dean stuff and we bought/sold back and forth (mostly him to me since he had so many). Some moved on for various reasons but when he died a few years back I resolved to get every one that he ever sold to me back in my possession. This was the last of them and because of the hs repair pictured, the owner wouldn't ship it (totally understand). I cannonballed a 19hr round trip a couple weeks ago and finally got it back home. I'm never doing that again but it was worth it.
I put new SS Elixirs on the JCB. I had an old set on there that I'd kept that had gone a little dead.
