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String End Wrap On Nut

buzzby

buzzby

Nov 20, 2020
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Hello,

I just put a new set of string on a bass.

The string end wrapping on the E string extends down past the nut (see photo).

I don't think this is a good thing, but I thought I'd check with you to see.

The strings are RotoSound 77 (RS775LD), which is a long scale set. The bass is a Schecter Omen Extreme 5, which has a 35" scale length. The other four strings are as expected, per photo.

Thank you for your help and advice!
 

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Yahboy said:
Similar thing happened on DR Legend 130B string on my previous Ibby SRFF805. Problem solve after trim the silk a bit.
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Not for me. I should not have to worry about "fixing" strings when I receive them.

I'd be happy without any silk, as long as that's the way it's supposed to be. If we don't report these errors, we don't allow the companies to improve their quality control. That feedback loop is absolutely critical to maintain consistent quality for everyone.
 
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Regarding the WFB, that is a situation you may just have to live with, unless you want to remove the offending bit of thread. With long scale acoustic and semi-acoustic hollowbodies, the distance from string anchor point to tuners is very long, and thread resting in the nut, or over the fingerboard itself, is not uncommon. If it were a FSO, you would not be having this problem.
 
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GretschWretch said:
Regarding the WFB, that is a situation you may just have to live with, unless you want to remove the offending bit of thread. With long scale acoustic and semi-acoustic hollowbodies, the distance from string anchor point to tuners is very long, and thread resting in the nut, or over the fingerboard itself, is not uncommon. If it were a FSO, you would not be having this problem.
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I could accept this, except the wrap length of the other the strings is perfect (per above photo). I've reached out to La Bella on this.
 
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buzzby said:
I could accept this, except the wrap length of the other the strings is perfect (per above photo). I've reached out to La Bella on this.
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But the A and D strings have farther to travel to get to the capstans, so their threads will clear the nut. In fact, comparing the threads on all four strings, the argument could be made that the G has too little thread on it.
 
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GretschWretch said:
But the A and D strings have farther to travel to get to the capstans, so their threads will clear the nut. In fact, comparing the threads on all four strings, the argument could be made that the G has too little thread on it.
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It looks to me like the G string is the correct length, since the end of the wrap on it aligns almost perfectly with the A and D strings, where the wrap on the E string extends past the nut. The E string appears to be an inch or two too short, while the other three strings appear to be correctly aligned with each other.
 
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buzzby said:
It looks to me like the G string is the correct length, since the end of the wrap on it aligns almost perfectly with the A and D strings, where the wrap on the E string extends past the nut. The E string appears to be an inch or two too short, while the other three strings appear to be correctly aligned with each other.
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Well, discovering which of us is more correct does nothing to resolve your dilemma. The only options for you I see are either to contact Gretsch, which you already have done, or cut back the thread on the E string.
 
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buzzby said:
Not for me. I should not have to worry about "fixing" strings when I receive them.

I'd be happy without any silk, as long as that's the way it's supposed to be. If we don't report these errors, we don't allow the companies to improve their quality control. That feedback loop is absolutely critical to maintain consistent quality for everyone.
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The end user is the final link in the QC chain. Not contacting the company does not allow them to investigate the root cause of why these strings get past their in house QA/QC and rectify it. It's critical to all companies.
 
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Poor QC, and a couple packs in a row with duds: that was it for me and Rotosound.

They mixed up and stuck the wrong string in the package. Make ‘em fix it. You are still out the time and effort. And disappointed when your restring went south.

After years of Rotosound string loyalty, it’s now been decades since I used purchased their strings. Once bitten….
 
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buzzby said:
Further: In March I bought a set of La Bella 760FL strings for my Gretsch WFB. EXACT same problem (E string too short. Photo below).
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For the Labella DTB the 4th (E) string is 36 ¾” from ball-end to silk/taper, the ADG are 38". (info from their website)
I learned it the hard way with my Warwick StarBass (hollowbody) as well.
The only way to get 38 on every strings is to get the XL version.

Why they design the E string like this, I don't know. Maybe to prevent over wrapping on P-bass???
 
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Killing Floor said:
Never seen that. Looks like a human factory error. If it were me I’d pull off the thread.
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The primary reason I can't simply "pull off the thread," is because the thicker part of the string doesn't even go as high as the nut, so the string is basically touching the first fret. It's not quite touching it, but if you play the string even lightly, it buzzes.

I could buy an XL E string, but I'm not impressed with the sound of the la bella strings anyway. I'll go back to either Rotos or DR on the White Falcon.

Thanks, everyone, for your advice and suggestions.

buzz
 
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