Beatiful setup, beautiful rig, beautiful Fodera! Would love to hear some clips/see some videos!
Thanks for posting Yaphet #5
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Beatiful setup, beautiful rig, beautiful Fodera! Would love to hear some clips/see some videos!
Thanks for posting Yaphet #5
Regarding the Deco, I would add that the secondary functions for the knobs can really make a difference in the fidelity of the tape saturation- there's both a low pass and high pass filter that can be used to optimize it for bass. I'll definitely get some clips of the crispy hi-fi fuzziness I've been getting out of it lately... the 'hidden' secondary knobs are just another feature that, to me, makes these boxes amply worth the price of entry.
and, thanks! I really truly love this set up...virtually gas-free at the moment!
and, thanks! I really truly love this set up...virtually gas-free at the moment!
I'll have to work on that sometime, but honestly, when it is run into my 2 channel recorder (Marantz PMD661) it would probably not be much (if any, really) different sounding than just the stereo reverbs with a mono signal into it.
Any Deco demos or quick recordings would be great. I'm very interested and I might flip a few of my extra fuzz pedals to acquire one soon.
I'm still getting the hang of the Timeline, but its been so much fun. Here is a quick bass demo I did using the Ice setting. I added lots of filter, grit and modulation to make the octave up sound like a keyboard in the backround. I used my avri Jazz with Darkstars into a Bassman 300 pro.
I'm still getting the hang of the Timeline, but its been so much fun. Here is a quick bass demo I did using the Ice setting. I added lots of filter, grit and modulation to make the octave up sound like a keyboard in the backround. I used my avri Jazz with Darkstars into a Bassman 300 pro.
I have a Timeline, Big Sky and a Möbius. I use the off and on sometime with each other. I really like the Möbius flanger and oddly enough to the Vintage term. I want in.
that's rad- i'm going to throw down a Deco clip now; I'll post shortly. I usually keep the saturation more on the subtle side, but if you're considering parting with dedicated fuzz, I'll try to give you an idea of what it can do.
Love Strymon. Consider me a fan boy. They can't do wrong. I've owned the Deco, DIG, El Capistan, Ola, Mobius twice, Flint, TimeLine, and Big Sky twice. Currently use the Big sky and DIG on my board, and a Mobius for studio stuff or when I really need it. I have come to the conclusion that I will always give whatever they put out at least a try because their products are so well thought out. On top of that, resale value is super high so it's a win/win. Now if they would just come out with the Parallax already! ;-)
P.S. For what it's worth, I'll be purchasing another Deco soon. So cool. Best slapback sounds out there and the flanging was really nice.. I so want to buy a 3 Leaf Wonderlove V2 and put a You're Doom Fuzz and a Deco in the effects loop. Synthy Goodness!
I was wondering when you were going to come by! Would also love to heard some of your clips and what you're up to with the DIG and the Big Sky right now. I salivate every time I think about that Parallax concept!
Welcome aboard! morebassbaby #7
Sounds beautiful man, very ethereal and spacy. For having only had that beast for a couple days it looks and sounds like you've dialed it in pretty well if I can say so.
PS Darkstars sound tremendous!!
Thanks! It's good to be here! My band is working on an EP right now and we don't have a guitarist so I am laying simple ambient parts with the Big Sky,DIG, and Mobius. When we get it back from mixing, I'll post here. It's coming out nice. I can't believe the complexity the Reflections machine on the Big Sky makes with a little overdrive to give you a 3D sound. Of course it can totally get lost in a live mix with whatever huge, boomy room you're playing but being able to have that much control in the studio is nice. So far using plates, springs, reflections, and nonlinear machines.
Brilliant. Really looking forward to hearing what you're doing and totally agree about the reflections machine...are you using any homecooked presets or mostly working with what came with the Big Sky out of the box?
Onya Oz.
Considering I generally prefer a tactile approach, most digi pedals with presets and banks usually have me selling them, Strymon is a rare exception!
I use a Mobius myself, linked up to an expression pedal. Helluva pedal, and has killed off my gas for modulation pedals in a pretty small space of time.
....But that's been replaced by analog delay pedal gas, which is much much worse! drool
I mainly use the Phaser, Rotary & Vibe among a few others, mostly set thick and chewy.
I like how fat I can make the Phaser sound, it's the sound I've been chasing for years out of a phaser, and funnily enough, with a bit of tweaking it wasn't all that far away from one of the presets built in (bank 6 or 7 from memory). Many of the presets are quite good.
I use the Exp mainly for speed alone, (LOVE how you can set the floor and ceiling for the exp pedal for each effect!) but I don't actually use the Exp for the Rotary speed as I prefer the ramp button instead for that effect > Love how you can enable/disable the Exp pedal for each preset.
So much to like about this pedal.
I'm not after a number, but I have a few questions. To you guys using the Bigsky here on TB;
Are you also guitar players? If not, how are you using it?
I ask as I play a heap of guitar myself too, but reverb just isn't an effect I have much use for on bass.
I like the Swell, but so far I haven't played with it much past the presets.
I'm thinking of using the Exp like a volume pedal, have any of you worked out how to do it?
Lastly;
Have you guys with a Timeline tried using it for modulation effects ONLY?
Wonderiing out loud, if it's possible to get many of the modulation effects available on the Mobius, simply by turning the mix to 100% wet and turning the repeat time down to nothing/realtime, thereby acting just like a Mobius?
Obviously this might not be what the Timline was purposed for, and it would involve a heap of tweaking, but I'm curious....
My board has changed a little since this phote (+Timmy -Oxide);
Considering I generally prefer a tactile approach, most digi pedals with presets and banks usually have me selling them, Strymon is a rare exception!
I use a Mobius myself, linked up to an expression pedal. Helluva pedal, and has killed off my gas for modulation pedals in a pretty small space of time.
....But that's been replaced by analog delay pedal gas, which is much much worse! drool
I mainly use the Phaser, Rotary & Vibe among a few others, mostly set thick and chewy.
I like how fat I can make the Phaser sound, it's the sound I've been chasing for years out of a phaser, and funnily enough, with a bit of tweaking it wasn't all that far away from one of the presets built in (bank 6 or 7 from memory). Many of the presets are quite good.
I use the Exp mainly for speed alone, (LOVE how you can set the floor and ceiling for the exp pedal for each effect!) but I don't actually use the Exp for the Rotary speed as I prefer the ramp button instead for that effect > Love how you can enable/disable the Exp pedal for each preset.
So much to like about this pedal.
I'm not after a number, but I have a few questions. To you guys using the Bigsky here on TB;
Are you also guitar players? If not, how are you using it?
I ask as I play a heap of guitar myself too, but reverb just isn't an effect I have much use for on bass.
I like the Swell, but so far I haven't played with it much past the presets.
I'm thinking of using the Exp like a volume pedal, have any of you worked out how to do it?
Lastly;
Have you guys with a Timeline tried using it for modulation effects ONLY?
Wonderiing out loud, if it's possible to get many of the modulation effects available on the Mobius, simply by turning the mix to 100% wet and turning the repeat time down to nothing/realtime, thereby acting just like a Mobius?
Obviously this might not be what the Timline was purposed for, and it would involve a heap of tweaking, but I'm curious....
My board has changed a little since this phote (+Timmy -Oxide);
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Onya Oz.
Considering I generally prefer a tactile approach, most digi pedals with presets and banks usually have me selling them, Strymon is a rare exception!
I use a Mobius myself, linked up to an expression pedal. Helluva pedal, and has killed off my gas for modulation pedals in a pretty small space of time.
....But that's been replaced by analog delay pedal gas, which is much much worse! drool
I mainly use the Phaser, Rotary & Vibe among a few others, mostly set thick and chewy.
I like how fat I can make the Phaser sound, it's the sound I've been chasing for years out of a phaser, and funnily enough, with a bit of tweaking it wasn't all that far away from one of the presets built in (bank 6 or 7 from memory). Many of the presets are quite good.
I use the Exp mainly for speed alone, (LOVE how you can set the floor and ceiling for the exp pedal for each effect!) but I don't actually use the Exp for the Rotary speed as I prefer the ramp button instead for that effect > Love how you can enable/disable the Exp pedal for each preset.
So much to like about this pedal.
I'm not after a number, but I have a few questions. To you guys using the Bigsky here on TB;
Are you also guitar players? If not, how are you using it?
I ask as I play a heap of guitar myself too, but reverb just isn't an effect I have much use for on bass.
I like the Swell, but so far I haven't played with it much past the presets.
I'm thinking of using the Exp like a volume pedal, have any of you worked out how to do it?
Lastly;
Have you guys with a Timeline tried using it for modulation effects ONLY?
Wonderiing out loud, if it's possible to get many of the modulation effects available on the Mobius, simply by turning the mix to 100% wet and turning the repeat time down to nothing/realtime, thereby acting just like a Mobius?
Obviously this might not be what the Timline was purposed for, and it would involve a heap of tweaking, but I'm curious....
My board has changed a little since this phote (+Timmy -Oxide);
Wow! Killer board setup Smo, thank you for your post and thoughts around using the Mobius, I have no doubt the Great Divide absolutely slays going into that phaser. Would love to hear your use of the Expression pedal via some clips and would also love to know what's going on behind the Wah/Exp pedals as well with all the misc parts!
I've found alot of satisfaction with the Swell on my timeline or autoswell on the mobius going into a wild cloud Preset I put together on the Big Sky, beyond that I also love the Shimmer and Chorale...it just opens up so many incredible ambient/shoegazing possibilities.
As far as your jones for the Analog delay..and i'm sure @frankegcbass can attest to this as well-the Timeline does really cover those bases too if you ever wanted to go down that road. I got rid of my AD4096 for the Timeline and found that it comes with an exact AD4096 preset out of the box!
I know you're not searching for a number but you're getting one anyway SMO #8 !
The one thing that has made the Big Sky a total keeper this time is that I spent an obscene amount of time making my own presets. There were a couple I decided I like from Strymon but in general, I just clicked the wheel to whichever of the 12 machines and started from scratch.
This is not to say that Strymon suffers from the affliction of most multi effects manufacturers (with awful presets from the factory) I find theirs in general far more useful and playable straight out of the box. I believe that is one area in particular where they really excel, making demos of presets that would be useful in a normal playing context (one area that while Eventide certainly has the quality of DSP and effects going for it, out of the box presets and playing examples is not really their forté) Not really looking to start a war on Strymon VS. Them. I love my H9 as well and it is an indispensable part of my rig!
I am just really digging the power that is coming with all these little shiny boxes. I think about where they have brought all of our pedalboards from the old days. I look at some of my heroes, even guys that play g**tar like Mike Einziger from Incubus, schlepping massive 20-30 pedal pedalboards and going through their sounds in my head. Can my few Strymon Big boxes and an Eventide H9 make fairly accurate permutations with 85% accuracy on either a Pedaltrain 2 or jr sized board? Yes, yes they can. What a great time we live in! I definitely don't have a roadie for this!
You're absolutely right. Making presets from scratch, loading up ones that others have created or using the ones out of the box are all great.
As far as best bang for your buck, the big Strymons can replace many pedals on boards for about $400-$500 a pop it just makes sense and I hope more bassists embrace them (and also hope we see many more come out of the woodwork for this thread!)
The possibilities are truly endless!
That is one really cool thing about my board right which I primarily use for bass, it sounds great with guitar. I never play guitar live although I have been toying with the idea of getting something like a baritone guitar (like a fender Bass VI or something) because ambient effects sound so much clearer on instruments with higher octaves. I'd say there are 2 things that have really made it possible for me to explore effects in a way that I don't hear many bass players using them.
One is playing with a group of musicians that don't define their musical roles in traditional terms (bass is supposed to hang out on the first 5 frets and hold it down, keys and guitar add the texture to a song ect.) It is possible for bass to be melodic and for guitar to hold it down with some thick chords. Some of that has come from a place of having holes in our line up. I've played in a few 3 piece bands now where it's just a rhythm electric, or a full band at a church that has no keys or guitar. There is a big gaping hole in the mix to fill up some sonic space.
The second is having an instrument that sounds clear enough to hear those individual reflections coming off the wall from a Big Sky. My primary bass is a bright sounding Ash/maple/single coils bass that Lakland made for me. The special thing is having this 5 string strung E-high C. I can chord and I hear the individual notes and they don't clash. This is huge for making effects work on bass (at least for me) I have a couple basses that just sound awesome and fat and groove hard but put some reverb and multiple delays on and it gets to be a pile of mud SUPER quick!
All this to say, I do piss off a lot of guitarists and sound men who are like "what are those sounds he's making?!?!" but at least I feel like I can express myself musically...and after all, Isn't that all what we're trying to do?
Cheers.
Say, didn't you have a TWA-GD at one stage? It's not something I use all that much on bass, but when I do... ha ha.
I really like using it alone, or going into a fuzz for a super thick, yet crunchy upper octave tone that'll feedback gently, and should you feed that into an oscillating delay it's a lot of fun for noise making.
Timeline covers the AD4096 you say? Huh.
One of the attractions of analog delays for me are the way they oscillate, especially when you increase the repeats and let them run away. I'm a big fan of certain delays due to the way they degrade.I've been looking at the DMMTT-1100/550 for the run-away oscillation feature hands-free, and the brighter nature of these delays may work better with bass.
Does the Timeline run away if you hold down the tap button?
Should you let it run away and bend over to fiddle with knobs like the mix and speed/rate, does it behave like an analog delay would, or does the preset/digi nature prevent this from sounding realistic? I mean, does changing the speed/rate knob during oscillation result in the oscillation increasing/decreasing pitch like an analog delay would, or do you get digital anomalies like the El Cap & Brigadier do?
I've seen some demo's of the Brig/El Cap that put me off for this reason...
Nice! Yeah I play both aswell, and currently in a 3-piece too, hence my choice in drives (Timmy/Barbershop) which work well with both.
I don't think I could get away with using delay with bass, if I was in a bigger band. We're all useful on various instruments, we're trying to talk our drummer into pulling out his mandolin at some stage in a set during a quiet instrumental section.
I tune a fair bit lower, CFA#D#, and aim for a pretty thick tone using flats, but I do leave the tone knob on my passives fairly open-ish. I guess this is why I'm not using reverb! Funnily enough though, when I plug in my guitars, I tend to run the gats with a completely open tone knob and only ever change the tone knobs on the Timmy, everything else stays the same (yay for small victories!)
