Suck on this Mike Gordon

[Axstar]

Senseless trolling on my part, but I'm always amazed at how vanilla Mike Gordon's tone is when you see the complexity of the rig(s) he uses. You see that filing cabinet full of rack-mounted gear, and the boutiquey cabs, and then you hear what is basically a very dry, bland flatwound + pick tone, with the occasional envelope filter or other effect to quirk it up. More power to him for having such self control when you have a rig at your disposal that would allow you to trample all over your bandmates every which way.

 

[Slevage]

The Mixed-Driver Police should be here any minute to explain why this isn't going to work....

It will work quite well mostly due to being crossed over (and properly aligned).

 

[10cc]

Senseless trolling on my part, but I'm always amazed at how vanilla Mike Gordon's tone is when you see the complexity of the rig(s) he uses. You see that filing cabinet full of rack-mounted gear, and the boutiquey cabs, and then you hear what is basically a very dry, bland flatwound + pick tone, with the occasional envelope filter or other effect to quirk it up. More power to him for having such self control when you have a rig at your disposal that would allow you to trample all over your bandmates every which way.

I've thought the same about Schools too.

 

[HeadWind]

Here it is in action last week:

I was somewhat disappointed not to be able to gaze at any of Mike's equipment. Everything was hidden behind those screens which were used as part of the lighting entertainment. I don't think there was any speakers on the stage at all. No monitors (they all had IEMs) and I don't think Mike had any cabinets behind the screens.

As you can see, I was standing right in front, so actually, since everything went through the mains, I thought the sound wasn't that great because it was being projected well to the either side of me. I made the decision to get a better view of Mike's fingers than get a better sound, since you don't have that opportunity that often. I actually took out my earplugs during the first set (yes, I'm yet another old bassist with tinnitus) as it wasn't that loud right in front and I couldn't hear any of Scott's Guitar. But put them back in for the second set which seemed louder.

 

[Axstar]

I've thought the same about Schools too.

Educational facilities 'Schools', or something else?

 

[10cc]

Educational facilities 'Schools', or something else?

As in Dave from Panic.

 

[Axstar]

As in Dave from Panic.

Ha! That totally flew over my head the first time. Not listened to nearly as much Widespread Panic, so not able to comment. From what I have heard I prefer Jimmy Herring to Trey though! Swings 'n' roundabouts.

 

[mc900ftj]

That's beautiful, man.

hmmmmmm...but shouldn't this be in the "Show your rigs" thread? #justkidding

 

[Plutonium244]

So, I am arriving late to this thread.... did Mike Gordon ever suck on it?

 

[spiritbass]

Another potent, hard hitting system!

Speaking of scattering horses and cattle, I have to train my performance horses to handle a PA, the typical system would be 4 or 5 UPA-12's in a smaller arena, and we would typically fly 8 or 10 HDL-20's for a larger arena. Since we are doing "equine entertainment theatre", the horses have to be able to deal with it. In this respect, my horses prefer the line arrays over point sources as the array shading provides a more even bleed into the arena. Of course it's helpful to have a PA or 10 available for training purposes, as we perform to music and announcing/narration.

Alrighty then. This provides some insight into your choice of user name.

 

[deathness]

So do the lights dim when you fire that up?

I would be inclined to dim the lights myself before playing that setup, make the moment more romantic.

 

[BawanaRik]

The Mixed-Driver Police should be here any minute to explain why this isn't going to work....

And a so and so won't fly.

To quote someone with more brains than me. if it sounds good it is good.

 

[micguy]

I've often had a vision of my ideal bass rig - this thread reminded me of that vision. Rather than something you'd load on a truck, it would be a truck. You back the rig into the venue, then unhitch the tractor from the trailer box (the whole trailer box is the bass amp), then park the tractor outside during the gig. Yes, you'd need a protective cover on the side while on the road, but other than getting that out of the way, setup would be so easy. Assuming of course, the place had a big enough door to back it in.

Of course, in reality, I play in church with no amp or cabinet. But I can still dream.

 

[AMachine]

It's amazing how far PA has come in terms of SPL density (SPL for a given weight and size) as well as the sheer improvements in audio quality. Then there's the simplified rigging!!!

I love it the ratio is great. And the rigging is great I love the Adamson rigging system.

 

[AMachine]

Naah, typical power feed for audio is 100 amps 3 phase (36kVa). Hardly notices

Not here. We got plenty.

 

[AMachine]

That was a great excercise with 6 boxes of EAW KF760s and 4 SB1000s. Had cattle and horses scattering. The Boss heard us 1/4 mile away at the office. Signal chain was Stingray SR5 -> Radial J48 -> Yamaha CL5 -> EAW UX processors -> Lab Gruppen FP6400s on tops, Crest 9200s on subs. Actually, the initial tone with console EQ set flat was kinda bright (as in the typical 9db boost at anywhere from 8K to 12K (!!) and nearly a half-ocvtave wide that was seen often in early line array processor setting). A little EQ-ing fixed that.

By the time the bass was cranked up to a nice tone, it was painful to stand near.

This was a little over a year ago. This shop now has an EV XLC rig, so we'll play with that after the 1st. I'll play my Elite Jazz through it this time.

I know, I know, "pics or it didn't happen", fair enough. I'll get pics on this next go-around.

I bet it sounded awesome.

 

[AMachine]

Here it is in action last week:

I was somewhat disappointed not to be able to gaze at any of Mike's equipment. Everything was hidden behind those screens which were used as part of the lighting entertainment. I don't think there was any speakers on the stage at all. No monitors (they all had IEMs) and I don't think Mike had any cabinets behind the screens.

As you can see, I was standing right in front, so actually, since everything went through the mains, I thought the sound wasn't that great because it was being projected well to the either side of me. I made the decision to get a better view of Mike's fingers than get a better sound, since you don't have that opportunity that often. I actually took out my earplugs during the first set (yes, I'm yet another old bassist with tinnitus) as it wasn't that loud right in front and I couldn't hear any of Scott's Guitar. But put them back in for the second set which seemed louder.

Mike still uses the line array of cabinets its just hidden. He was also using a D&B wedge on a platform. Under that platform is butt kickers shaking the hell out of it. You can see it with the wedge on it behind his foot. I was thinking of something like that recently then Mike came in and was have this built to try and they say its working out. Plus his in ears.

 

[HeadWind]

Mike still uses the line array of cabinets its just hidden. He was also using a D&B wedge on a platform. Under that platform is butt kickers shaking the hell out of it. You can see it with the wedge on it behind his foot. I was thinking of something like that recently then Mike came in and was have this built to try and they say its working out. Plus his in ears.

When you say platform, do you mean that thing he was standing on? Looked to be about 5' x 5' and a few inches off the floor. Me and the guy standing next to me were trying to figure out what that was. Do you know what that was? I was guessing something springy for when he started hopping to the beat.

There may have been a wedge somewhere. Both Mike and Scott had their pedals hidden behind some sort of low hood. I figured only pedals were behind that since it was pretty low.

Edit: I missed the sentence "You can see it with the wedge on it behind his foot." So that was the wedge and that was the platform". I guess then my question is "what are butt kickers", other than, say, a steel toed boot.

 

[AMachine]

When you say platform, do you mean that thing he was standing on? Looked to be about 5' x 5' and a few inches off the floor. Me and the guy standing next to me were trying to figure out what that was. Do you know what that was? I was guessing something springy for when he started hopping to the beat.

There may have been a wedge somewhere. Both Mike and Scott had their pedals hidden behind some sort of low hood. I figured only pedals were behind that since it was pretty low.

Edit: I missed the sentence "You can see it with the wedge on it behind his foot." So that was the wedge and that was the platform". I guess then my question is "what are butt kickers", other than, say, a steel toed boot.

The platform had butt kickers under it mounted upside down as a montior you feel instead of hear. Thats what the 5x5 platform. A butt kicker is something that vibrates when hitched up to amp rather then creating sound. Agedhorse could really break it down for you probally better then I.

 

[wraub]

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Edit: I missed the sentence "You can see it with the wedge on it behind his foot." So that was the wedge and that was the platform". I guess then my question is "what are butt kickers", other than, say, a steel toed boot.

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