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Suggestions For A Rumble Replacement

#41
"The Ampeg BA-108 (v1) bass combo is perfect for beginning bassists, offering tools like 3-band EQ, MP3 input and a headphone out for silent practice. The high-output 8 inch speaker is specifically matched to the powerful 25-watt amplifier for optimal performance. The cabinet design is great for directional monitoring during practice, with a ported baffle for excellent low frequency extension. Also great for live performances, the Ampeg BA-108 has a dedicated line out perfect for additional support from a mixer or PA system. The impact resistant, cabinet design features durable black tolex, white piping and Ampeg's classic logo badge. It's the very definition of what a practice amp should be - Ampeg BA-108."

- RMS power output: 25 watts
- Speaker configuration: 1 x 8 in.
- Preamp: Solid-state
- Power amp: Solid-state
- Tone controls: 3-band EQ
- Balanced line output: Yes
- MP3/CD input: Yes
- Headphone output: Yes
- Dimensions (H x W x D inches) : 15.3 x 15.3 x 11
- Handling weight: 27 lbs / 12.2 kg

 
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Pluckoff said:
"The Ampeg BA-108 (v1) bass combo is perfect for beginning bassists, offering tools like 3-band EQ, MP3 input and a headphone out for silent practice. The high-output 8 inch speaker is specifically matched to the powerful 25-watt amplifier for optimal performance. The cabinet design is great for directional monitoring during practice, with a ported baffle for excellent low frequency extension. Also great for live performances, the Ampeg BA-108 has a dedicated line out perfect for additional support from a mixer or PA system. The impact resistant, cabinet design features durable black tolex, white piping and Ampeg's classic logo badge. It's the very definition of what a practice amp should be - Ampeg BA-108."

- RMS power output: 25 watts
- Speaker configuration: 1 x 8 in.
- Preamp: Solid-state
- Power amp: Solid-state
- Tone controls: 3-band EQ
- Balanced line output: Yes
- MP3/CD input: Yes
- Headphone output: Yes
- Dimensions (H x W x D inches) : 15.3 x 15.3 x 11
- Handling weight: 27 lbs / 12.2 kg
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Hmm..... sadly, those 8' dirver combo still has lacking something to my ear as bass combo.
For small size 8' driver combo with full tone along with reasonable price tag. Vox VX50BA.

Vox VX50BA 1x8" 50-watt Bass Combo Amp
 
#44
I still like the Rumble 200 (1x15) combo I have. However, I think the Rumble's are overrated. Ampeg seems to make better designed ported cabs that focus the low end better than the blubbery, lack of focus low-end Rumble"s have past 11 o'clock on the bass knob.
 
#45
Pluckoff said:
I still like the Rumble 200 (1x15) combo I have. However, I think the Rumble's are overrated. Ampeg seems to make better designed ported cabs that focus the low end better than the blubbery, lack of focus low-end Rumble"s have past 11 o'clock on the bass knob.
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i dont think Rumble V3 are overated, she has nice bake-in voice . I always let the vintage button engage most time. Sound sweet bloom with P bass plug in.

I have same problem like you, loose low end while volume knob pass 1 o'clock. B string has lot laid back tone especially aggressive fast note attack. Then i get the Hartke KB15 which has solid tone .

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But KB15 suffer with noisy fan and rattling amp casing.

After that i move to Tech 21 VT200 combo and currently happy with Ampeg RB112 .

For who has familiar with Rumble V3 tone , Ampeg RB could sound muddy and muffle to them with flat EQ.
Ultra Hi engage along with smile EQ knob will better serve.
 
#46
Brians356 said:
I'm intrigued. Got link to any post(s) expanding on this concept? (The Rumble Club is a yuuuuge thread!)

(I've got the R200 combo.I looked at the Google Drive "TONE POOL" Database but didn't find a 0 Gain, ~0 Bass entry other than for headphone practice. Perhaps that's apropos for home recording, direct to board?)

B.
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Sorry, but can't refer you to links because most of my experimentation has been in gig situations. I put my Rumble on a chair or stand to "decouple" it from the stage and start with Gain and Bass both at 9:00 on a clockface. Treble and High and Low Mid are at 12:00. Then I stand as far in front of the speaker as my cable allows to get a sense of what the audience is hearing. I usually have to do minimal tweaking to get a decent sound, and it usually involves the Low Mids, which I sometimes turn to 9:00 as well. In some boomy rooms I have turned the Gain completely off (counterclockwise). Not all amps allow this, but Rumbles do.
 
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#47
fat sound at low volume for recording? mix a DI signal with whatever amp you buy and throw a mic in front of. the DI is going to be most of the "fat" and the amp is going to provide a little bit of color. if low volume is a hard constraint i personally wouldn't bother with an amp for recording, given amp simulators are pretty good these days and I'd still mix the amp sim signal with a DI signal...
 
#48
BobDeRosa said:
... ... Sorry you believe the Rumble isn't meeting your needs. I'm not sure what "hollow" sounds like, but it could have something to do with the mids. Have you tried no Gain and very little Bass, and then tweaked the mids to get a sound you like? And have you put it on a stand or a chair to decouple it from the floor? Hate to see you spend $1500 needlessly.
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Brians356 said:
I'm intrigued. Got link to any post(s) expanding on this concept? (The Rumble Club is a yuuuuge thread!)

(I've got the R200 combo.I looked at the Google Drive "TONE POOL" Database but didn't find a 0 Gain, ~0 Bass entry other than for headphone practice. Perhaps that's apropos for home recording, direct to board?)

B.
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Courtesy of the TalkBass Fender Rumble Club:

Hope this helps.
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And I said:
fat sound at low volume for recording? mix a DI signal with whatever amp you buy and throw a mic in front of. the DI is going to be most of the "fat" and the amp is going to provide a little bit of color. if low volume is a hard constraint i personally wouldn't bother with an amp for recording, given amp simulators are pretty good these days and I'd still mix the amp sim signal with a DI signal...
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DI on left channel, Cab mic on right channel? Hard pan both or keep near center for best tone?
 
#51
BobDeRosa said:
Sorry, but can't refer you to links because most of my experimentation has been in gig situations. I put my Rumble on a chair or stand to "decouple" it from the stage and start with Gain and Bass both at 9:00 on a clockface. Treble and High and Low Mid are at 12:00. Then I stand as far in front of the speaker as my cable allows to get a sense of what the audience is hearing. I usually have to do minimal tweaking to get a decent sound, and it usually involves the Low Mids, which I sometimes turn to 9:00 as well. In some boomy rooms I have turned the Gain completely off (counterclockwise). Not all amps allow this, but Rumbles do.
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That's really good info, I'm only interested in live performance, not recording. Thanks a lot!
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#54
Pluckoff said:
"The Ampeg BA-108 (v1) bass combo is perfect for beginning bassists, offering tools like 3-band EQ, MP3 input and a headphone out for silent practice. The high-output 8 inch speaker is specifically matched to the powerful 25-watt amplifier for optimal performance. The cabinet design is great for directional monitoring during practice, with a ported baffle for excellent low frequency extension. Also great for live performances, the Ampeg BA-108 has a dedicated line out perfect for additional support from a mixer or PA system. The impact resistant, cabinet design features durable black tolex, white piping and Ampeg's classic logo badge. It's the very definition of what a practice amp should be - Ampeg BA-108."

- RMS power output: 25 watts
- Speaker configuration: 1 x 8 in.
- Preamp: Solid-state
- Power amp: Solid-state
- Tone controls: 3-band EQ
- Balanced line output: Yes
- MP3/CD input: Yes
- Headphone output: Yes
- Dimensions (H x W x D inches) : 15.3 x 15.3 x 11
- Handling weight: 27 lbs / 12.2 kg

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Lol, I actually have that Vox amp he uses in the demo. I have it running into an old Voice of Music extension cab made for a console phonograph. I have a 12" 80 watt speaker in it. I'll have to plug my bass into the Pathfinder and see how it sounds.

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#55
This is an old school suggestion.
If you can try Bag End 12” or 15” cabinets, you may have the kind of revelatory experience that I did.

I get tone compliments everywhere, from audiences to drummers to band leaders….

They’re not “lightweights” by today’s standards but they were for their 1980’s heyday and especially at home a 35-42 pound cab isn’t a big deal.

If you like the Rumble’s tone, you’ll like my recommended GK/Bag End recommendation. Rumbles remind me of it, only more hollow and cheap. But on the same direction.
 
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G-Dog said:
Per Clock Knob Reading, I'd say:

Since 0.00 is 7:00,
0.5 is 7:30 o'clock &
0.0625 is approx. 7:04 o'clock​
But, those aren't realistic settings, are they?​

I get your point and have fixed the formatting of those cells in that spreadsheet. Thanks for the hint. :thumbsup:
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I think that is the more consistent system, thanks. Now I'm looking for the LA Wrecking Crew's Joe Osborn picked flats ala Glen Campbell's "Wichita Lineman" tone.
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G-Dog said:
I get your point and have fixed the formatting of those cells in that spreadsheet. Thanks for the hint.
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May I ask who contributed the Instant Motown Soul entry? It worked wonderfully for me this week, live with a 10-piece big band. I tweaked the Lo Mid up some is all. Using that setup, I can confine my SG Bass w/ Precision Flats to the bridge PU, and blend in just a hint of neck PU for more bottom. "Hey guys, do I sound like James Jamerson?" "Like who?"
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