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Suggestions For A Rumble Replacement
- Thread starter Pluckoff
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I have. I got into recording about a year ago and still going through learning curves. I eventually want to make the process as streamlined and uniform as possible to lessen variables.
I like the low floor noise and ease of line-out. However, I do think capturing with a mic/mixer/recorder provides the best sound.
I like the low floor noise and ease of line-out. However, I do think capturing with a mic/mixer/recorder provides the best sound.
This might be a good read for the Runble amps.
Looks like “flat” is similar to that for a GK amp, at least for the R500.
https://www.talkbass.com/wiki/fender-rumble-500-frequencies/
Maybe start there and try small adjustments from there.
It might sound hollow to you since the mids are scooped with all controls at 12 o’clock?
also found this chart of Rumble settings
Fender Rumble "TONE POOL" - Google Drive
Looks like “flat” is similar to that for a GK amp, at least for the R500.
https://www.talkbass.com/wiki/fender-rumble-500-frequencies/
Maybe start there and try small adjustments from there.
It might sound hollow to you since the mids are scooped with all controls at 12 o’clock?
also found this chart of Rumble settings
Fender Rumble "TONE POOL" - Google Drive
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I was at Sam Ash yesterday and played an Ampeg 1x10 combo. It was only the second time that played through an Ampeg. It has the sounds that I hear my head as a fat tone. It doesn't have an XLR or 1/4" jack line-out. The previous Ampeg was a 1x12 combo. They both have similar tones and features.
I intend to sell my Rumble or trade it for an Ampeg. I tried getting similar tones out my Rumble, but it can't do it. Anyone know why these two brands sound so different from each other?
I intend to sell my Rumble or trade it for an Ampeg. I tried getting similar tones out my Rumble, but it can't do it. Anyone know why these two brands sound so different from each other?
Engineering for different users?
I mean, what would be the point of two companies that make equipment that sounds exactly the same?
I currently own Rocket bass 112 and been own those 2000 bassman 25 , Rumble V1 100/210, V2 75/112 and V3 200/150.
RB112 has heft tone that missing on Rumble. The SGT mode work better efficient than Overdrive on Rumble. Once engage, SGT tight up, heft up, compress up ..... what ever... she just give me useful overdrive Tube-ist result to me.
But , RB112 can't dial that Fender bake-in tone which has sweeter zing/top end on Rumble 200/115 with bright button engage + Horn ON.
There was one in the classifieds a few days back at a good discount. A great choice.
Another great choice is the Genzler 350:
Magellan 350 Combo - SERIES 2 - Genzler Amplification
Very good analysis and pretty much on par with my thoughts about the two. Knowing more now than I did at the time certainly helps narrow the focus of the tones I want when recording my songs. My style of music leans more towards what Ampeg is putting out.
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It’s a company’s signature to separate their sound from their competitors. Imagine if they all sounded the same? It’s ruin the hobby, though save me a bunch of money!
I've owned a few Rumbles and while they’re super popular, my ear doesn’t like them. Too muddy where the notes all sound similar, but that’s the proof how subjective it is; what you may love another bass player may not stand. BTW, going with Ampeg is a brilliant choice!
Off topic here, if you wanna a combo has Ampeg ,Sun ,Bassman voice , but not digital combo, check the Tech 21 VT 200 combo.
I been own the combo and VT500/410cab.
But they didn't has those heft tone produce from RB112 once SGT engage.
Mint Used Mesa Subway D-800+ and Subway 1X12 OR 1X15;Deep switch should help with 'Fat Tone' at low volumes
D-800 also just less flexibility and features
D-800 also just less flexibility and features
Thanks for the reply. I am aware of the reasons for company's to have a distinct sound, but these two are polar opposites that barely cross paths at any point at any settings combinations. My guess is it might be more about the cabinet/speaker design than the amp. I've built a few tube guitar amps and imo what separates amp tone (not speaker/cab influence) is design for built-in compression and gain staging. Otherwise at clean volumes a lot of amps/combos can sound very similar or capable to achieve similarities amongst each other.
I’d concur with your “amp vs cab” theory, especially with the Class-D versions many of us use today. I sold home audio back in the early eighties and by far the hardest component to choose were the loudspeakers. Between the design philosophy and what the listener end up hearing, there’s a lot that goes into achieving the sound.
All I know is I tend to sound like me regardless of what I play through for the most part. To me, it’s what tone fits the song the best and that my ears like. It’s probably why I enjoy having different pieces of equipment to scratch whatever itch at the moment; particularly plugins for recording.
I had a number of Rumble V3 heads and cabs and they just weren't my thing. I'm not going to rag on them because many folks love them and they ARE pretty good gear. In the end, I went with a Mesa WD800 and a pair of Subway 15's ( after I tried them out). There are a whole lotta options available to shape your sound with this rig. The best thing I can recommend doing is to do a tour of some stores with your primary bass and check the various amps you are interested in ..in person. (Make a list of the gear you're interested in, call the stores and ask if they have any of them in, and try them.) I hope you get what makes you happy..
Rumbles sound nice, but they do lack some detail. I believe that at some musical level, the Rumbles really can hold you back. If you want something better, I suggest to look into GR Bass or Eich. I have experience with both and can recommend the Eich BC112pro combo (or its separate version, Eich 112XS cab and T500 or T300 head). It's reasonably small and lightweight, absolutely silent (no fan or electric noise), and the sound is both crystal clear and not lacking lows.
I purchased a used Ampeg BA-108 for $70 today. Sounds better than the Rumble.
That's the only amp I have right now. Works fine for my music room at home. I use it with my Broughton HPF and Keeley Bassist. Definitely gets loud enough for my needs without stressing out the speaker.
Punchy little beast.
Seems to have better clarity and punch than the Rumble twice it's size. The ampeg gets plenty loud in a bedroom.
I'm intrigued. Got link to any post(s) expanding on this concept? (The Rumble Club is a yuuuuge thread!)
(I've got the R200 combo.I looked at the Google Drive "TONE POOL" Database but didn't find a 0 Gain, ~0 Bass entry other than for headphone practice. Perhaps that's apropos for home recording, direct to board?)
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