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Suicide and those quietly considering it

i_got_a_mohawk

i_got_a_mohawk

Feb 9, 2005
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Edinburgh & Dundee, Scotland
#1
If you feel you are stuck in such a dark place and you can't get out or you are putting on a happy face while miserable inside, please, talk to someone. Let it out and get help.

You'd never know the pain it brings to the family and friends around you, especially when they would help if they knew.

Again, just talk to someone, please.
 
#2
*Yesterday, someone I knew from my hometown ended his own life, back in February an old school friend also took his life, the place only has a population of about 8,000.

Both guys were always outwardly happy and upbeat, but clearly something wasn't right deep down.

So if you are feeling that way, be honest, don't cover it up and talk to someone.
 
#4
Thanks bud, and I do! I've been down that path (never getting anywhere near that far I don't think), and I know how much talking to people can help.

Heck, I just hope if anyone on the boards is having any thoughts along those lines, that they speak to someone or get help.

It's just that it always seems to be someone that you'd have never expected :-\
 
#5
Sorry for what happened to you, OP. I haven't had any particularly close person go down this path, but someone I had an acquaintance with did this and it still caused me considerable anguish.

IMO, a lot of people need to change their outlook on suicide and suicidal people. Out in the 'west', maybe there's a good degree of awareness, understanding and sympathy for the mental state of people who take their lives, but, sad to say, it isn't the same everywhere.

Here, I've seen an incredible number of people putting a generic 'coward' or 'ignorant' label on people who committed suicide or are contemplating it :(
 
#10
Don't let life's bastards win. You're better than they are. You just need more time & learning to realize it.

Help a friend – Befrienders Worldwide: Invalid Link Removed via @addthis
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Befrienders centers work to reduce suicide worldwide with 31,000 volunteers in almost 40 countries.
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Suicide Hotline (General) – 1-800-SUICIDE (784-2433) [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
http://www.suicidehotlines.com/

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline 1-800-273-TALK (8255) http://tiny.cc/rqrk0
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VETERAN SUICIDE HOTLINE: 1-800-273-TALK (8255)
Veterans Crisis Line | Hotline & Online Chat: http://www.veteranscrisisline.net/ via @addthis

The Trevor Project (GLBT Youth) – 1-866-4-U-TREVOR [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
http://www.thetrevorproject.org/

Warning Signs:

Increased Isolation – From family and friends

Alcohol or Drug Use Increases Expression of negative attitude toward self

Expression of hopelessness or helplessness

Change in Regular Behavior

Loss of interest in usual activities

Giving away valued possessions

Expression of a lack of future orientation (i.e. "It won't matter soon anyway")

Expressing Suicidal Feelings

Signs of Depression

Describes a Specific Plan for Suicide

History of Suicide in the Family

A person who has been extremely depressed in the past may be at an increased risk for suicide if the depression begins to cease, as they may now have the psychological energy to follow through on a suicidal ideation.
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#11
The worrying thing is, neither of the guys I knew showed any of those warning signs.

One of them even had planned stuff for next week.

However, thanks for the links! Great to point people towards more specific mediums of help! :bassist:


champbassist said:
Sorry for what happened to you, OP. I haven't had any particularly close person go down this path, but someone I had an acquaintance with did this and it still caused me considerable anguish.

IMO, a lot of people need to change their outlook on suicide and suicidal people. Out in the 'west', maybe there's a good degree of awareness, understanding and sympathy for the mental state of people who take their lives, but, sad to say, it isn't the same everywhere.

Here, I've seen an incredible number of people putting a generic 'coward' or 'ignorant' label on people who committed suicide or are contemplating it :(
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Sadly there is still a lot of labelling involved, I think much of it (at least from closer family and friends) is to do with misplaced anger (from not being able to help) and hurt from the people who miss them.


Lonesomedave said:
absolutely...good advice.

i have to admit i was very worried at the title of your thread because i thought you might be talking about YOU...man, you'd be missed around here
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Don't worry about me, I plan on being a PITA here for many many years to come :D


blendermassacre said:
I had two friends commit suicide and my sister's college room mate attempt it in a week last year. I concur wholeheartedly.
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Man, sorry to hear that, especially in such a tight timeframe. Were the suicides related at all? **** :(
 
#12
one of my family members committed suicide 18 years ago, i'm still not all that comfortable talking about it or thinking about it, unfortunately i've had to think about it more recently, because there have been several od/suicides among artists i know in LA this spring, my observations are as follows
drugs and alcohol make things worse, success doesn't matter, your friends and/or family want you around, talk to somebody
 
#13
i_got_a_mohawk said:
Man, sorry to hear that, especially in such a tight timeframe. Were the suicides related at all? **** :(
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No. My closest friend had a rare seizure disorder which caused extreme mood swings based on his brain electrically misfiring. He would have huge ups and downs. He got down, badly, and was by himself, and took his life.


Alex was huge into making his VW jetta faster, so one or our mutual friends is on a mission to make his VW 600bhp in his honor, right now.
 
#14
I have a friend who has bipolar syndrome, I haven't seen him in a long time though.
He use to self harm, think he is much better now, since the last time I saw him he's got married and is much happier these days.

I haven't had anyone close commit suicide, though I knew of a few young lads (both under 20) in the local music scene kill themselves, I don't know the reasons, one was in a band that was about to go somewhere too, very sad.

And to OP, I'm sorry to hear that. :(
 
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Sad thing is... of all the people Ive never known to threaten suicide, none of them actually ever did it... I think threats of suicide are simply a cry for help. The only people Ive known to have committed suicide just did it (ie my aunt, a classmate).

I read a study once that true suicidal people almost get tunnel vision, and are zoned in on 1 task and 1 talk alone... taking their life. They dont waste time making threats.

I know pain, but it makes me wonder what one must feel like to actually take their life. It's truly sad.
 
#20
I have recently had a friend of mine that was in Iraq with me kill himself. To many soilders are doing it, I won't lie and say that the first 6 months back were not extremely hard but I never got to that point, but alot do. I won't say that it's right, but I understand. PTSD is a hell of a thing.
 

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