Sunn 4x15 cab

[The_Conqueror]

Is there any other interesting cabinets also available used?
I'm always looking even if I think I've found something.

Would you use the Ashdown to run the Sunn cab?

Not likely. By the time I actually pull the trigger, I will be buying a amp head as well. I'm currently leaning towards the Trace Elliot GP-12X or The Ashdown 12-band 600, which seems to be a modern equivalent of the Trace, and therefore more readily available.

 

[Jeff Scott]

 

[jerry]

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In the 70's I had a Traynor 4/10 cab that at the time I dug, I don't know how it would hold up to today's standards, but its the first 4/10 cab I ever saw/had.

 

[Jeff Scott]

I had a sealed version of a Traynor YT-15 from the '60s that I loaded two EVM-15L driver into. Sounded great with the 2nd version Sunn Concert Bass amp I was using with it.

In more recent years I had a pair of YS-15 cabinets, just like the YT-15 but in a more manageable form than the 2-15 cabinet. I put Eminence Delta Pro drivers in them.

 

[callofcthulhu]

I think your summarizing is way off base.

There was some good information presented about WHY you haven’t seen any manufacturers introduce a design like this in the last maybe 25-30 years. Nobody said not to use an old funky cabinet either, just that they wouldn’t recommend it for several valid reasons.

Do you have a problem with members who want to learn based on real science rather than pretending that the science doesn’t exist?

I have a problem with someone asking about an old muscle car they're interested in investing in and the resulting discussion being about why the Prius was a more successful design.

 

[ardgedee]

I have a problem with someone asking about an old muscle car they're interested in investing in and the resulting discussion being about why the Prius was a more successful design.

Or asking about an old muscle car they're interested in investing in but they don't want to know how engines and drive trains work.

 

[Redbrangus]

I have a problem with someone asking about an old muscle car they're interested in investing in and the resulting discussion be
ing about why the Prius was a more successful design.

I don't buy this analogy. It's more like someone asked about buying a '48 Hudson for a daily commuter and other folks explaining why that's a terrible idea... in part, by pointing out the many shortcomings of the original design, even by the standards of the day, and comparing it to modern offerings. [Edit] And not so much the Prius, but alternatives similar to a Toyota Camry or Highlander... to further torture the metaphor....

Edited to substitute Hudson for Edsel. Just honing the tortured metaphor.

 

[Redbrangus]

And... how is it that this thread has meandered on for 9 pages and no one has said anything about the OP's apparent belief that speaker diameter is the key to the tone he is seeking?

 

[baxter_x]

And... how is it that this thread has meandered on for 9 pages and no one has said anything about the OP's apparent belief that speaker diameter is the key to the tone he is seeking?

Hahaha! Good one

 

[Auer]

And... how is it that this thread has meandered on for 9 pages and no one has said anything about the OP's apparent belief that speaker diameter is the key to the tone he is seeking?

Are you going to?

 

[Redbrangus]

Are you going to?

Nah... I think I've already weighed in too heavily for most folks tastes. The most succinct post I've seen on the subject -- and apologies that I can't remember which TB'er said it -- was something along the lines of, "the only thing speaker diameter tells you is what size hole to cut in the baffle board."

 

[ctmullins]

Some people listen with their eyes. And it’s certainly true that a quad of fifteens has a menacing stage presence visually.

But yeah. My 4x10 goes way deeper than my 1x15…

 

[Marko 1]

Just so we remember what we are talking about...

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Put the grill on it, and it's not much, if any larger than a 2x15.

 

[Redbrangus]

Put the grill on it, and it's not much, if any larger than a 2x15.

Nor would it perform any better, IMHO.

 

[ardgedee]

Put the grill on it, and it's not much, if any larger than a 2x15.

Probably considerably heavier though.

 

[singlemalt]

If I remember correctly, there was a brief comment totally dismissing tone woods. Nobody bit on that little nugget.

 

[bucephylus]

I’ve been a bit busy and missed this thread.

I actually owned and gigged the Sunn 415 V baffle along with a Model T head back in the 70’s. My recollection was that it sounded outstanding. I only sold it because the schlep factor became impractical. I was driving a Mercury Capri at the time, and had to remove the passenger seat to accommodate the cab. Played hell with my dating life at the time.

The Sunn 415 is heavy; but, it was sold with heavy duty casters. I forget the weight; but, I think it wasn’t quite as hefty as the Acoustic 361 bottom or the Ampeg 810.

In a similar vein, I ALWAYS crossfire my side by side rigs, either 212’s or my current Mesa 112/115 stacks. Here is a 2 x 212 for example.

This deployment eliminates any combing of the highs and sounds excellent.

I’m a bit surprised by people slagging the Sunn 415 or the V baffling. Both were / are pretty useful IME.

 

[agedhorse]

I’ve been a bit busy and missed this thread.

I actually owned and gigged the Sunn 415 V baffle along with a Model T head back in the 70’s. My recollection was that it sounded outstanding. I only sold it because the schlep factor became impractical. I was driving a Mercury Capri at the time, and had to remove the passenger seat to accommodate the cab. Played hell with my dating life at the time.

The Sunn 415 is heavy; but, it was sold with heavy duty casters. I forget the weight; but, I think it wasn’t quite as hefty as the Acoustic 361 bottom or the Ampeg 810.

In a similar vein, I ALWAYS crossfire my side by side rigs, either 212’s or my current Mesa 112/115 stacks. Here is a 2 x 212 for example.

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This deployment eliminates any combing of the highs and sounds excellent.

I’m a bit surprised by people slagging the Sunn 415 or the V baffling. Both were / are pretty useful IME.

Notice a major difference however, your system has MUCH more internal volume per driver, MUCH better drivers and a MUCH better design. The cross firing, as I mentioned earlier wasn’t the primary problem. It was the mid bass response, which was common of that era even though designers strived for better.

 

[bucephylus]

Notice a major difference however, your system has MUCH more internal volume per driver, MUCH better drivers and a MUCH better design. The cross firing, as I mentioned earlier wasn’t the primary problem. It was the mid bass response, which was common of that era even though designers strived for better.

No doubt true. it was quite a long time ago; and my reference at the time before I bought that rig was a CBS Fender Bassman with the 215 cab, which CBS Fender loaded with two 12” drivers; just because…

Anyhow, that cab was way more than I needed then or ever will need.

 

[Bill Whitehurst]

I think that 4 15 design was a case of finding a way to use cheaper speakers and still get by.
One of them was not about to get the job done...but 4, hmmm.
I believe that was the same thought process that lead to the 810 fridge.