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Sweet Home Alabama

Discussion in 'General Instruction [BG]' started by ElectroVibe, Mar 6, 2013.


  1. ga_edwards

    ga_edwards

    Sep 8, 2000
    UK, Essex
    Every studio version I've heard fades out at the end, so no resolution.
     
  2. Zootsuitbass

    Zootsuitbass

    Mar 13, 2011
     
  3. Kmonk

    Kmonk

    Oct 18, 2012
    South Shore, Massachusetts
    Endorsing Artist: Fender, Spector, Ampeg, Curt Mangan, Nordstrand Pickups, Korg , Conquest Sound
    I have played both of these songs. I play learn everything by ear and play exactly like the original recording without over thinking modes, melodies, etc.
     
  4. Zootsuitbass

    Zootsuitbass

    Mar 13, 2011
    I love the connection between your response and your sig.

    Art begets life begets art.
     
  5. Zootsuitbass

    Zootsuitbass

    Mar 13, 2011
    Thread Killer.... Sorry guys.

    :bag:
     
  6. Zootsuitbass

    Zootsuitbass

    Mar 13, 2011
    Nobody noticed that they resolved/ended on a G?
     
  7. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    I already explained that earlier.
     
  8. Zootsuitbass

    Zootsuitbass

    Mar 13, 2011
    Oh my bad I thought somebody above said something about studio takes. So I found a live thing.

    I all so remember people saying that it would raise eyes to end the tune on G. Granted they set it up different than just BANG G.
     
  9. Hard to argue convincingly either way IMO. On the one hand, it resolves to D over and over again, but sits on G the longest. And the solos revolve around the key of G, to a large extent. But the melody is in D all day long, so.....hmmmm.
    You can end it on G no problem, with a ritard--it sounds fine but does sound somewhat unresolved that way.
    I don't know.
     
  10. sammyp

    sammyp

    Aug 20, 2010
    NB, Canada


    I've played SHA a million times as a lead guitar and bass player .....D minor pent doesn't work for me half as well as D major pent ........

    this progression is actually a bit tricky to make musical as a soloist ......it very much helps me to outline chord tones for the changes ....

    I use D major pent (sometimes minor pent) over the D chord and watch my chord tones over the C ....for the G i will hit G blues scale or G major pent ....both work well.

    FWIW: we've been here before but i'm gonna respectfully disagree with KEY of D ......

    It's a V, IV, I in G ......yes D is the tonal center....

    if this tune was in D major, the D major scale would sound great but the the C# will kill ya!

    The only single 7 tone scale that fits this tune is D, E, F#, G, A, B, C = D mixo from G major

    The D mixolydian or G major also contains all the essential chord tones for all 3 chords! 1,3,5 for all of em.
     
  11. That's why the solos are pent city.
    Disagree about the C#. It sounds interesting to me.
     
  12. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    That pretty much answers my original question. I was wondering if the D-Modal could be played with the notes of the G-Major scale. I guess that it can. (I understand that you would not want to play the C#).

    I think the confusion started when the originally written guitar riffs were basically those three chords of G. But they were ambiguous enough that Ronnie Van Zant must have heard them as having the D-Modal sound. So he wrote his song around that. The notes in his melody technically could also fit into G-Major, but the way they were structured tends to emphasize a D center.

    If Ronnie's vocals were removed and some other singer listened to the track for the first time with just the instrumentation, he might hear it as G-major. (But I doubt it because that sustained "D" note on one of the guitars tends to solidify it as "D".) No one has really stated what the other band members heard it as, only that they agreed to back up Ed King because he told them that he had heard it in a dream.
     
  13. morgansterne

    morgansterne Geek U.S.A.

    Oct 25, 2011
    Cleveland Ohio
    werewolves of london is definitely in g. Same chords.
    kid rock's all summer long is definitely in g. same chords (obviously).

    the guitar solos in sweet home are all G major scale it sounds like.
    I think the guitar player in "all summer long" musta had the same music teacher as I did -- who told us in sixth grade that to play blues, you could only play the root, flat third, fourth, flat fifth, fifth and flat seventh of the scale. I don't think he could figure out what key the song was supposed to be in and threw a D blues scale at it. Sounds totally in the wrong key to me.
     
  14. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    That's a good example.
     
  15. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Boy oh boy...it's "Sweet Home Alabama," 3 chords. Play it in G, D, F, A, R, W...whatever.
     
  16. Munjibunga

    Munjibunga Retired Member

    May 6, 2000
    San Diego (when not at Groom Lake)
    Independent Contractor to Bass San Diego
    Sounds like V-IV-I to me. Since the D is the fifth of the G chord, though, I can see where someone might hear it resolving to D. You can sing (hum or whistle) D-C-D and it fits the progression.
     
  17. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    It's in D, ya'll. Simple. The accidentals are just that, accidentals.
     
  18. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    The writer of the song says it's in G, so it's in G. Regardless, don't make so much of it and just play the chords.
     
  19. ElectroVibe

    ElectroVibe

    Mar 2, 2013
    But the writer of the melody on top (Ronnie Van Zant) of that is dead. No one ever asked him about it as far as I know.
     
  20. JimmyM

    JimmyM Supporting Member

    Apr 11, 2005
    Apopka, FL
    Endorsing: Ampeg Amps, EMG Pickups
    Ronnie was a singer, not a musician, and sings exactly four notes the whole song. What did he know? ;)
     

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