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SX Mod Rant

It all started when I went into my local music shop. I was thinking about getting a "proper" Jazz 5 or some other 5 string, and figured I'd do some price checking. Man am I glad I did :eek: 800$+ for a 4 string P, never mind anything with 5 strings and another pup :eek: Considering that I got my SX for 260$ shipped and it sounds pretty good, I can't really complain. That's when I decided to see about modding mine a little, just to see what I could achieve with a bass I already own.

The way I figure I'm already ahead of the game. The body is nice and solid (even if it is 3 piece) with a really good finish. The neck is solid, no warping or anything, and I've already satinized the back of it with ultra fine sandpaper :D The electronics sound nice too. Theres a little noise with the tone open, but I much prefer it closed anyways. Some really nice phat growly mids and smooth lows.

The 1st problem I had was intonation. I'd have had to have cranked the saddles right back to get it to intone properly on the low B. My original solution was to get a new bridge, but I couldn't find one thin enough, so I decided to move the one it came with back. I could only move it about 10mm with out getting new saddle screws, but it worked out fine. Heavy, well constructed bridge, considering the price. Makes the bridge on my more expensive noname look crazy flimsy. Tough too. It took me a bit to dremel out a couple of the string holes to make stringing it easier.

In the end it worked out quite nice, so I've decided to dress her up a little. Got some new black knobs coming that look like the ones on an actual fender jazz to replace the tacky ones that say "volume" and "tone". Im getting a tort pickguard custom cut/drilled cus the fender ones don't line up. The funny part is that it won't cost all that much more than an official fender one :eyebrow:, or at least as compared to the ones carried locally.

The cost of all this in the end (including shipping costs)? Somewhere around 400$ :eek: :smug: :cool: :bassist:

I honestly can't believe that I'm gonna have a fairly unique (or at least uniquely set up) fender knockoff for about a 3rd of the price of an actual fender. I'm really starting to like this whole Chinese manufacturing thing :hiding: :ninja: LOL...

Anyways, I just thought I'd share :D
 
I'm thinking about an SX 5. I'm wondering if there are pup upgrades available? The string spacing looks tight. Also - I'll bet the pups are the same length negating buying a traditional Jazz Bass set of replacements.
 
Most Fenders, and mid priced instruments are like this anyway, hell most electric basses altogether are 2 to 4 piece. Its not a factor to be considered a downside IMO.


Anyway more about modding SX's, one of the most fun things a bassist can do!:)

I don't consider it a downside actually. It seems to be well put together. Hell, even with no routing on the back I honestly have to look for where the pieces meet even. The grain is very well matched for looks.

C'mon, you know the rules..... no pics, no mods.

Hehe. Well here's the series of pics for the bridge mod I did (from the thread: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474414):

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I'm thinking about an SX 5. I'm wondering if there are pup upgrades available? The string spacing looks tight. Also - I'll bet the pups are the same length negating buying a traditional Jazz Bass set of replacements.

The string spacing is very tight compared to other 5ers I've had the pleasure of trying. 15mms between the center points of the strings at the bridge. The smallest top-load (which is the only extra I'd like compared to the stock one) bridge I could find was 17mm spacing. I actually like the spacing tho. I have skinny fingers so I adapted quite nicely. From the measurements I've done (and can't for the life of me remember) I think its a regular 4 string P-bass width neck, but with 5 strings.

As for the pups, Im pretty sure they are the same size as fenders 4 string pups.

I +1 the suggestion for pups with blade poles, if you do decide to replace them. Give em a chance tho, a lot of people seem to love them. Including me :D
 
Yeah, my P's grain is pretty good too, you'd want to be looking close, and know what your looking for.

Done a great job on that bridge, very neat!

As for the pickups, SX's are indeed good, I'm adding a bridge one to my P, but the current one is guarandamnteed to be staying along for the ride! :D
 
I'm thinking of doing a mod, but I could really use some help... could you do it for me?

I need the measurements of the pickups, side to side, and the width of the strings at the point that they are over the pickups...(please measure over both the bridge PU and the neck PU)
Sure! I gotta go out, but I'll measure and post when I get back, or tomorrow at the latest :D
 
OK. So you might call this a little extreme, but I drew out a schematic of what the pup looks like then recorded the dimensions. They're fairly close, but not exact to the 32nd of and inch.

I scanned in my drawing. The image below is 600x753. Click on the link to see the 1100x1381 version. You might be thinking "man thats big", but its small compared to the 1200dpi 7152x8976 original. I scaled it using GIMP:

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I've go WAY to much time on my hands.... :D
 
Wow... looks like you almost ran out of room on the G?
Actually, the screw still goes thru about 3/4s of the way on the G. On the D its only about 1/2 way thru :eek:

I don't worry bout the saddles coming off tho cus they're threaded all the way thru. The springs are all compressed a little bit. The saddles haven't moved since I did the move so its all good :D
 
I love modding these basses. +1 on the bridge move - I've replaced the bridges on both the 4s I've modded, and will probably go with a heavier bridge on the 5 I've got in work.

You're right about sounding pretty good out of the box, especially considering the price, but for about $20 you can switch out the hardware for CTS/Orange Drop/switchcraft and have a bulletproof setup - I won't lie and say I hear that much of a difference, but the quality is way better.