Tabs=Bad. & No, This 'Isn't' in the Wrong Category

[rymiraflores]

Only someone completely ignorant concerning music, like electrocoyote, would make that statement. People who learn to read music learn theory beforehand, which definitely will make for a better musician.[

How the hell could you possibly know how knowledgeable electrocoyete is about music ? You don´t know him haven´t heard him play..nothing.. blahblahblah.....

 

[JimmyM]

hey mister nice....learning to read only makes you better at reading..it does not make you a better musician.

you are 100% wrong about that. it absolutely does make you a better musician, and concepts of music that were previously unknown or difficult to learn will become much easier to understand.

also, i 100% resent your categorization of those of us who are pro-reading and anti-tab as "snobbery." only in america is educating yourself considered snobbery. learning how to read music doesn't cost anything except your time, so when someone calls it snobbery to learn how to read, i call it laziness to not learn how to read. obviously neither of us are 100% accurate, but if you're going to call me a snob, i'm going to call you lazy.

and stop with the rock stars who can't read as proof you don't need it, people. may i please remind you that you are not paul mccartney? and the likelihood of you having a career in music that good is less than the likelihood of you hitting lotto and getting hit by lightning in the same day, whether you read music or not.

only people who don't know how to read music argue against it. and if you can't read music, you really have zero clue what it offers.

 

[Babaghanoush]

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[rymiraflores]

Only someone completely ignorant concerning music, like electrocoyote, would make that statement. People who learn to read music learn theory beforehand, which definitely will make for a better musician.

How dare you imply that I am completely ignorant about music you obnoxious fanny..I have been pro for almost 30 years played and toured with several famous musicians, spent 100´s of hours recording with them too.....you know nothing about anyone here but regardless of that you think that you are better than all...what a joke...I would love to hear some of your work...have you ever actually played with anyone? You appear to be a bitter and jealous person.... probably never got anywhere playing right? Pity your poor son .

 

[Febs]

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[electracoyote]

only in america is educating yourself considered snobbery.

I think you realize what I'm about to say, but for the record:

I do not consider educating yourself equivalent to snobbery.

I do consider it snobbery when someone with an education condemns the other learning styles and approaches.

I have tremendous respect for those who undertake the arduous task of becoming good sight readers of standard notation and knowledge of the academic principles of music theory. I have tremendous respect for those, like Jimmy, who utilize these skills in real-world situations. This is why sight reading and theory in standard is mandatory for my young students.

I tend to lose respect for people who dismiss and condemn other learning styles and approaches different from their method of choice. It is pointless, arrogant, and insulting, and I think many of the responses on this thread bear that out.

Good musicians get that way through a wide variety of different channels and approaches.

 

[rymiraflores]

you are 100% wrong about that. it absolutely does make you a better musician, and concepts of music that were previously unknown or difficult to learn will become much easier to understand.

also, i 100% resent your categorization of those of us who are pro-reading and anti-tab as "snobbery." only in america is educating yourself considered snobbery. learning how to read music doesn't cost anything except your time, so when someone calls it snobbery to learn how to read, i call it laziness to not learn how to read. obviously neither of us are 100% accurate, but if you're going to call me a snob, i'm going to call you lazy.

and stop with the rock stars who can't read as proof you don't need it, people. may i please remind you that you are not paul mccartney? and the likelihood of you having a career in music that good is less than the likelihood of you hitting lotto and getting hit by lightning in the same day, whether you read music or not.

only people who don't know how to read music argue against it. and if you can't read music, you really have zero clue what it offers.

You are not much better than him...I can and do read music, furthermore I studied and played cello for 12 years, I now about theory and have played classical, rock, blues, jazz.etc.etc...and you know what ? Playing is what makes you better..not reading.

 

[rymiraflores]

I think you realize what I'm about to say, but for the record:

I do not consider educating yourself equivalent to snobbery.

I do consider it snobbery when someone with an education condemns the other learning styles and approaches.

I have tremendous respect for those who undertake the arduous task of becoming good sight readers of standard notation and knowledge of the academic principles of music theory. I have tremendous respect for those, like Jimmy, who utilize these skills in real-world situations. This is why sight reading and theory in standard is mandatory for my young students.

I tend to lose respect for people who dismiss and condemn other learning styles and approaches different from their method of choice. It is pointless, arrogant, and insulting, and I think many of the responses on this thread bear that out.

Good musicians get that way through a wide variety of different channels and approaches.

EXACTLY

 

[electracoyote]

Then don't do it.

I'm not.

You are.

 

[Febs]

Then don't do it.

He hasn't.

 

[electracoyote]

I was right, that statement proves you never even read the OP.

I read the OP, several times, in utter amazement, and I encourage anyone new to this thread to do the same.

From the OP:

"I don't use tabs but out of curiousity I look at Tabs for certain songs."


wwwwwhhhaaaaaaaattt?????

 

[rymiraflores]

Then don't do it.

He didn´t...you did!

 

[KingRazor]

Sometimes, tabs are all you've got. Without them I wouldn't know how to play more than half the songs I know.

 

[rymiraflores]

I read the OP, several times, in utter amazement, and I encourage anyone new to this thread to do the same.

From the OP:

"I don't use tabs but out of curiousity I look at Tabs for certain songs."


wwwwwhhhaaaaaaaattt?????

hahahahahah "Honest dear I don´t like porn I was just looking out of curiosity"

 

[JimmyM]

You are not much better than him...I can and do read music, furthermore I studied and played cello for 12 years, I now about theory and have played classical, rock, blues, jazz.etc.etc...and you know what ? Playing is what makes you better..not reading.

wow, and you still call it snobbery and argue against reading? that blows my mind.

 

[Febs]

Yes, ElectroCoyote (if he really does teach music) is definitely participating in, dumbing down of musicianship'.

I think that you really need to calm down and try to better understand what people have written.

I have 20 students, and for those age 16 or younger, learning sight reading skills in standard notation is mandatory.

 

[Babaghanoush]

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[Mark Wilson]

For the love of closed.

 

[Mark Wilson]

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