My turntable system..sounds good to me...I know it is not high end...But sounds rich/ Deep and clear!
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Denon DP1200 -> Luxman R-1030 -> DCM Time Windows for that warm room-filling deep vinyl sound in my studio space.
My Living Room has a basic old direct drive Sony TT into some Onkyo; but the Klipsch KG4's make everything sound really good in there. I also have a Technics 1200 (and a good higher level Gemini clone and a denon mixer)
About 3000-4000 records, mostly stored in my studio shelving. Many are 25 cent G- type records, but there is a lot of good stuff too.
My Living Room has a basic old direct drive Sony TT into some Onkyo; but the Klipsch KG4's make everything sound really good in there. I also have a Technics 1200 (and a good higher level Gemini clone and a denon mixer)
About 3000-4000 records, mostly stored in my studio shelving. Many are 25 cent G- type records, but there is a lot of good stuff too.
My system at home in Mass:
Marantz 2385 receiver, believe it or not: 200 WRMS/channel continous into 8 ohms, 240 into 4 ohms. (weighs about 60 lbs)
Four (double) Large Advents, (two 10" woofers per side)
Thorens TD-150 turntable
Pioneer CD player.
It's in storage right now but this thing could shake the house.
From the web, this one has LED lights in it, mine has the incandescents which are a prettier shade of blue:
Marantz 2385 receiver, believe it or not: 200 WRMS/channel continous into 8 ohms, 240 into 4 ohms. (weighs about 60 lbs)
Four (double) Large Advents, (two 10" woofers per side)
Thorens TD-150 turntable
Pioneer CD player.
It's in storage right now but this thing could shake the house.
From the web, this one has LED lights in it, mine has the incandescents which are a prettier shade of blue:
My system at home in Mass:
Marantz 2385 receiver, believe it or not: 200 WRMS/channel continous into 8 ohms, 240 into 4 ohms. (weighs about 60 lbs)
Four (double) Large Advents, (two 10" woofers per side)
Thorens TD-150 turntable
Pioneer CD player.
It's in storage right now but this thing could shake the house.
From the web, this one has LED lights in it, mine has the incandescents which are a prettier shade of blue:
Big Marantz fan! I've had and restored several over the years.
Currently using a restored Dual 1019 with various cartridges, a Marantz 2215b and 2275 into Klipsch and Cerwin-Vega speakers.
Yes Marantz receivers were beautiful and sound great too. I hope to someday own another McIntosh tube power amp, those are the most beautiful things I've ever heard.
Alkali Ike
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The Record Pi Vinyl de-warper works well, at least on some records. I'll write up a more detailed review but basically the gadget is legit. I'll get some before and after videos posted. 
https://recordpi.com/
"Not Affiliated with Record Pi"
https://recordpi.com/
"Not Affiliated with Record Pi"
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I've got a uturn orbit wired to some klipsch powered monitors and a small sub and dig it. They bluetooth so they work great for my television and phone
Alkali Ike
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Here's my "review" of the Record Pi. In the few days I've had it I've "baked" around ten records. Only one of them didn't improve. That one happened to be very thin vinyl with "dish warp". The rest of the albums, some of them heavyweight 180g pressings, improved anywhere from moderately to near perfect. I had one 180g record that needed 3 bake cycles to fix but it worked.
A bake cycle is roughly 3 hours per record, including a 45 minute cool-down during which you leave it alone in the RP case.
^^ This is what's in the box. It looks like a heavy-duty laptop carrying case.
^^ This the case opened. Inside there are 2 thick heavy metal plates, three types of felt groove protectors, a temperature probe, and the master controller. The case has a heating pad embedded in the bottom, with wiring emerging from the zipper enclosure side.
^^ This is all the pieces. The red plate goes on the bottom near the heating pad. The black plate goes on the top. They attach together with a threaded bolt and wing nut.
So the "pie" is built like this, top to bottom:
^^ The temperature controller, some kind of "white box" to the heating pad, and the threaded parts for holding the "pie" together. I don't like their bolt and pseudo-wing nut because the nut cross-threads way too easily. Replaced with a standard bolt and wing nut. Also I replaced their small washers with 1" fender washers. That stuff cost me under $2.
^^ First bake starting up. It takes around 20-25 minutes for the heat to reach the target setting of 125F. They recommend a 2 hour bake, but a lot of that is the thing reaching the target temperature. I've extended the total cycle time to 2 hours 20 mins. They strongly discourage setting the temperature higher than 125 degrees, although you can set a little higher. I haven't tried that.
^^ Temperature controller with the temp. probe plugged in on the right side. This box looks very "garage shop", but it seems to do everything they claim.
So drum roll... Here's a before and after video of a near-perfect bake of a brand new 180G pressing of the 2022 remastered "Can't Buy A Thrill" by Steely Dan. If I wanted to editorialize, I'd say this degree of warpage in a brand new premium pressing is a disgrace. Decades of practice and they still can't get this right?
Here's the video. I'm happy to answer any questions if I can. Overall I really like this thing.
A bake cycle is roughly 3 hours per record, including a 45 minute cool-down during which you leave it alone in the RP case.
^^ This is what's in the box. It looks like a heavy-duty laptop carrying case.
^^ This the case opened. Inside there are 2 thick heavy metal plates, three types of felt groove protectors, a temperature probe, and the master controller. The case has a heating pad embedded in the bottom, with wiring emerging from the zipper enclosure side.
^^ This is all the pieces. The red plate goes on the bottom near the heating pad. The black plate goes on the top. They attach together with a threaded bolt and wing nut.
So the "pie" is built like this, top to bottom:
- Wing nut
- Washer
- Black plate
- Felt groove protector
- Warped record
- Felt groove protector
- Red heating plate
- Washer
- Bolt
^^ The temperature controller, some kind of "white box" to the heating pad, and the threaded parts for holding the "pie" together. I don't like their bolt and pseudo-wing nut because the nut cross-threads way too easily. Replaced with a standard bolt and wing nut. Also I replaced their small washers with 1" fender washers. That stuff cost me under $2.
^^ First bake starting up. It takes around 20-25 minutes for the heat to reach the target setting of 125F. They recommend a 2 hour bake, but a lot of that is the thing reaching the target temperature. I've extended the total cycle time to 2 hours 20 mins. They strongly discourage setting the temperature higher than 125 degrees, although you can set a little higher. I haven't tried that.
^^ Temperature controller with the temp. probe plugged in on the right side. This box looks very "garage shop", but it seems to do everything they claim.
So drum roll... Here's a before and after video of a near-perfect bake of a brand new 180G pressing of the 2022 remastered "Can't Buy A Thrill" by Steely Dan. If I wanted to editorialize, I'd say this degree of warpage in a brand new premium pressing is a disgrace. Decades of practice and they still can't get this right?
Here's the video. I'm happy to answer any questions if I can. Overall I really like this thing.
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Alkali Ike
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EDIT: Corrected the name to Record Pi, not "Vinyl Pi". D'oh! 
Kind of embarrassing.
Also also...
The controller uses wi-fi and a mobile app for some remote control over it. You can remotely adjust the temperature and end a bake cycle. This is great, but there should be a timer to shut it off automatically at the end of the bake cycle. So I ended up buying a power timer with digital time settings. The timer plugs into the AC outlet, the Record Pi plugs into the timer. You can set any ON duration you want on the timer (the bake time) and the timer will automatically stop the bake at the end of that cycle. I set a timer on my phone for 3 hours at the start of a bake as a reminder. The record should be ready to remove at the end of that timer.
Edit: I forgot to describe the felt groove protectors. The system comes with one set of pads for 45s, and two different sets for 12" vinyl.
One 12" set has only the spindle hole and covers the entire area of the record including the label. This is described as being for "normal" warps, like edge or lip warping.
Another 12" set has cutouts the size of the label. This set is described as being for "dish warps". That's when the entire record is shaped like a saucer. Think of a turtle on its back.
I'm gravitating toward the "dish warp" set for all warps. It just seems to provide better results on all types of warps.
Kind of embarrassing.Also also...
The controller uses wi-fi and a mobile app for some remote control over it. You can remotely adjust the temperature and end a bake cycle. This is great, but there should be a timer to shut it off automatically at the end of the bake cycle. So I ended up buying a power timer with digital time settings. The timer plugs into the AC outlet, the Record Pi plugs into the timer. You can set any ON duration you want on the timer (the bake time) and the timer will automatically stop the bake at the end of that cycle. I set a timer on my phone for 3 hours at the start of a bake as a reminder. The record should be ready to remove at the end of that timer.
Edit: I forgot to describe the felt groove protectors. The system comes with one set of pads for 45s, and two different sets for 12" vinyl.
One 12" set has only the spindle hole and covers the entire area of the record including the label. This is described as being for "normal" warps, like edge or lip warping.
Another 12" set has cutouts the size of the label. This set is described as being for "dish warps". That's when the entire record is shaped like a saucer. Think of a turtle on its back.
I'm gravitating toward the "dish warp" set for all warps. It just seems to provide better results on all types of warps.
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My setup
Audio technica at-lp120xpt-usb. —> raspberry pi —> Sonos
sure there is some a2d/d2a color in there but it sounds great and I enjoy the process of listening to albums.
I hauled my 40yr old record collection out of the basement and had to use a spin-clean record washer on a few. Seems to do a good enough job cleaning wise. I haven't had to deal with much warp yet
I enjoy the new local record shop digging thru the used and new albums. Also joined amazon record of the month club. Last month was Pink Floyd dark side of moon. I of course already had an old copy but the new 180g pressing sounds superior.
Link to rPi software
GitHub - basdp/USB-Turntables-to-Sonos-with-RPi: Sonos support for USB Turntables with Raspberry Pi
Audio technica at-lp120xpt-usb. —> raspberry pi —> Sonos
sure there is some a2d/d2a color in there but it sounds great and I enjoy the process of listening to albums.
I hauled my 40yr old record collection out of the basement and had to use a spin-clean record washer on a few. Seems to do a good enough job cleaning wise. I haven't had to deal with much warp yet
I enjoy the new local record shop digging thru the used and new albums. Also joined amazon record of the month club. Last month was Pink Floyd dark side of moon. I of course already had an old copy but the new 180g pressing sounds superior.
Link to rPi software
GitHub - basdp/USB-Turntables-to-Sonos-with-RPi: Sonos support for USB Turntables with Raspberry Pi
Born in 1982 I started buying vinyl during the mid 90ies a time when record labels made loads of money selling cds and when vinyl was half or less than half the price of cds.
Moved to a big city in 2002 and buying lots of vinyl during that time at shows. When I left the city in 2013 definitely more than 50 percent of my records were bought at shows directly from the band.
Now that I'm living in the middle of nowhere again I'm back to mail orders for most of my stuff.
Moved to a big city in 2002 and buying lots of vinyl during that time at shows. When I left the city in 2013 definitely more than 50 percent of my records were bought at shows directly from the band.
Now that I'm living in the middle of nowhere again I'm back to mail orders for most of my stuff.
Alkali Ike
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- Jan 1, 2011
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- I never actually learned to play very well
Record Pi update
The system is less effective with records pressed on really thin vinyl. It can take several bake cycles to see any improvement. I'm doing a vinyl copy of the 3-disc Beatles Anthology 3 for a friend. All three discs are very thin and wavy as can be but they're getting much better with multiple bakes.
RP seems to be very effective with thicker 180g vinyl. Those are usually good to go after a single bake cycle. Maybe two cycles at most.
I've upped a bake cycle to 3 hours @125F plus the 45 minute cooldown. So this can be a slow process if a record needs multiple bakes.
I figured out I can safely bake 2 records at once. I bought the unit with an extra set of felt groove protector pads, so I can build a bake stack from bottom up as: bake plate - felt pad - 1st record - felt pad - 2nd record - felt pad - steel top plate. The upper record may require a 2nd bake but it usually improves noticeably on the 1st bake. This kind of speeds up the process.
"Not Affiliated With Record Pi".
The system is less effective with records pressed on really thin vinyl. It can take several bake cycles to see any improvement. I'm doing a vinyl copy of the 3-disc Beatles Anthology 3 for a friend. All three discs are very thin and wavy as can be but they're getting much better with multiple bakes.
RP seems to be very effective with thicker 180g vinyl. Those are usually good to go after a single bake cycle. Maybe two cycles at most.
I've upped a bake cycle to 3 hours @125F plus the 45 minute cooldown. So this can be a slow process if a record needs multiple bakes.
I figured out I can safely bake 2 records at once. I bought the unit with an extra set of felt groove protector pads, so I can build a bake stack from bottom up as: bake plate - felt pad - 1st record - felt pad - 2nd record - felt pad - steel top plate. The upper record may require a 2nd bake but it usually improves noticeably on the 1st bake. This kind of speeds up the process.
"Not Affiliated With Record Pi".
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Good to see A Physical Presence in your collection.
How on Earth did you see that?Good to see A Physical Presence in your collection.
All my Level 42 is on cassettes and CDs , but for a few albums
I'm slowly starting to move my records into those cases made by odyssey to free up the space the 6 cube organizer has been using so my combo amps have a permanent spot again. It should also make transporting over 300 records a f**k ton easier.
The speed of this process certainly hasn't been helped by the recent multiple component failures on my desktop forcing me to look into building another gaming PC but eventually I'll have 7-8 cases for my records and ditch the cube organizers.
The speed of this process certainly hasn't been helped by the recent multiple component failures on my desktop forcing me to look into building another gaming PC but eventually I'll have 7-8 cases for my records and ditch the cube organizers.
Now this is a thread for me... anyone else catalog their collectiong thru Discogs?
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