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Talking myself into a MIM Fender Precision vs American

Hmm.

I have my doubts on this instrument. The Classic Series 50's Precision Bass does not come with a bridge cover or a finger rest. The frets on this bass look a lot bigger than the ones on mine. Neck joint looks a bit loose, and it doesn't look like a one-piece neck/fingerboard like mine is. The "C E" stickers are missing from the neck plate, and the gig bag is all wrong. IMHO the Fiesta Red with the gold anodized aluminum pickguard is butt ugly. I find the sunburst, black or blond version more appealing. Buyer beware.

Alot of people take the CE sticker off, i always do, but anyways i am nit interested in it but i think its legit. The neck pocket is a bit scary with that chip.
 
The CE standards are analagous to UL, though their certification process is much more stringent. Electrical Engineers get excited (giddy, actually. like little school girls.)when their products pass CE cert without modification.
 
Hmm.

I have my doubts on this instrument. The Classic Series 50's Precision Bass does not come with a bridge cover or a finger rest.

Very common accessories that many folks immediately put on... The guard comes with the holes for the thumb rest and p'up cover pre-drilled.

The frets on this bass look a lot bigger than the ones on mine.

I'll give you that... They look bigger than mine as well... AFAIK, the 50s have the 'vintage' wire...

Neck joint looks a bit loose, and it doesn't look like a one-piece neck/fingerboard like mine is.

The joint looks fine to me, and what you're seeing as a separate fingerboard, I am seeing as camera reflection. In fact, similar shots of my bass showed this same thing...

The "C E" stickers are missing from the neck plate, and the gig bag is all wrong.

The CE sticker came off of my bass the night I bought it... Seriously, does anyone leave these on?? I was offered the same exact type of bag with my purchase, but upgraded...

IMHO the Fiesta Red with the gold anodized aluminum pickguard is butt ugly. I find the sunburst, black or blond version more appealing.

I won't argue with you there... That's why I went with blonde!!

-robert
 
Well guys, I think I have buyers remorse. The headstock says its a Fender MIM and it plays nice (although I haven't tested it out in the mix) but when I compare it to my 2000 Fender Jazz, the Jazz feels heavier, more solid. The neck on the precision actually feels smaller than the jazz. I'm not saying its not a MIM Fender because it clearly is but the Fender decal is black which reminds me of something I read here on TB about the basses made in the mid 90's after the fire or something or other. I'm torn because yes, it sounds good but I don't have another actual P to compare it to so psychologically its harping on me a little. I think I'm going to put this back up on CL. :(
 
Well guys, I think I have buyers remorse. The headstock says its a Fender MIM and it plays nice (although I haven't tested it out in the mix) but when I compare it to my 2000 Fender Jazz, the Jazz feels heavier, more solid. The neck on the precision actually feels smaller than the jazz. I'm not saying its not a MIM Fender because it clearly is but the Fender decal is black which reminds me of something I read here on TB about the basses made in the mid 90's after the fire or something or other. I'm torn because yes, it sounds good but I don't have another actual P to compare it to so psychologically its harping on me a little. I think I'm going to put this back up on CL. :(

Keep it and play it and nothing else for three weeks, and then decide. It's not losing value while you keep it, so you have nothing to lose.
 
I would consider getting a classic 50's P-bass. You can find one used from '06-'07 for about $500 and these have the US '57 necks and AM Std pups. The newer ones contain std pups I think but the finishes are awesome (fiesta red, blonde, black) and they are very solid instruments, much closer to US than regular MIM's or even HW1's for that matter. They are an excellent value at the price point and largely overlooked.

They are great basses, but to someone used to a Jazz neck, their necks will feel huge. Also the curvature of the fretboard kind of bothered me (7.25 radius I guess?).
 
Keep it and play it and nothing else for three weeks, and then decide. It's not losing value while you keep it, so you have nothing to lose.

Maybe you're right. I played it tonight during a recording session. With the amp at the same volume, it had a louder output than my MIM Jazz with stock pickups. As far as feel goes, its hard to tell because I haven't played on brand new roundwounds for many years and the Black Beauties it is strung have a great sound but seem thinner than normal strings.
 
what kind of fender american pickups are in there? the covers look matte finish.

Well, I have no idea. I'm going by what the seller told me which he just said it was upgraded to Fender American pups. Like I said, the output was much higher than my Jazz bass at the same level
on the amp.

what kind of strings are on it?

DR Black Beauties

is there a guitar store nearby where you can go try out a standard p bass to compare?

I actually met the seller at Guitar Center. I picked up another Fender P and there was a bit of a difference in feel but I attributed that to possibly the difference in the model year. In terms of weight, they felt almost the same. Big difference from my Jazz though. But then at home, the more I thought about it, and the more I looked at the headstock, the more my mind wandered. Its like the Jazz headstock had a shine to it, sort of like a coat of shellac where this P bass had more of a natural wood finish.
 
I only read the OP, so forgive me if I repeat anything. I love Mexican food but admit to being prejudiced toward MIM Fenders(no bad experience, just a presupposition on my part, I guess). That said, I grabbed a MIM-bodied parts P recently & LOVE LOVE LOOOVE it. It does have an Allparts neck & Nordstrand PU, so it's not fully south-of-the-border. Again- admittedly- I probably wouldn't hear or feel the diff between MIM, MIJ & MIA and doubt any listener would either. Ths bass has made me open my mind to at least one more source of cheap axes. I say try it. :cool:
 
I probably wouldn't hear or feel the diff between MIM, MIJ & MIA and doubt any listener would either.

I can hear the differences.:p I can hear the difference between Squier and MIM pups and all of my MIJs have MIA pups.

Squiers sound thinner

Rhe MIMs have this weird woompf noise to them to my eears. Some people like that tone, I've got no opinion.

Most American pickup models sound like old school basses trying to sound more modern. And they are.;)

Some of them (MIA MIJ) go for the full on vintage appeal where its all about warmth and bloom, with less attack than the other american pups.
 
I actually met the seller at Guitar Center. I picked up another Fender P and there was a bit of a difference in feel but I attributed that to possibly the difference in the model year. In terms of weight, they felt almost the same. Big difference from my Jazz though. But then at home, the more I thought about it, and the more I looked at the headstock, the more my mind wandered. Its like the Jazz headstock had a shine to it, sort of like a coat of shellac where this P bass had more of a natural wood finish.

the mim necks have variations in finish over the years. the newer ones are vintage tinted and shinier. the early 00s and late 90s are kind of satin finish. some even have a thicker rosewood slab than others. if it's straight and it feels good to you, then no need to worry that it's different from the other mims. it is what it is.

p basses in general are a lot lighter than jazzes. it's normal. my two mim p basses are quite lighter at around 8 lbs. they're still good basses.
 
Fender prices are all over the place now. I played a MIM late 50's P-Bass with the gold anodized pickguard, wide fat neck, light, one piece maple dead straight neck, and it sounded like a real vintage quality bass to me. The price was $1200. That's a price that one has to reflect on a bit because it's MIM? Bottom line though is it Rocked. If I could find a MIA that sounded as good, I would have bought that without thinking a whole lot about it. That fat neck, price, and factory stigma clouded my Buying mind. I went back later that week to buy it, and it was gone. Is a bass an investment anymore? Or is it pure self satisfaction? Luxury? I don't know...but I live and learn and wonder if I'll hestitate fruitlessly again.
 
I can hear the differences.:p I can hear the difference between Squier and MIM pups and all of my MIJs have MIA pups.

Squiers sound thinner

Rhe MIMs have this weird woompf noise to them to my eears. Some people like that tone, I've got no opinion.

Most American pickup models sound like old school basses trying to sound more modern. And they are.;)

Some of them (MIA MIJ) go for the full on vintage appeal where its all about warmth and bloom, with less attack than the other american pups.


Oh, I'm not saying there's no difference, and I'm sure some could tell- just not(likely)me. :rolleyes:
 
I just sold my MIM P-bass that was in perfect condition and I only paid $130 for it on craigslist. After owning three American made Strats and an American Standard Telecaster, there was just no comparison to the MIM quality. There is a difference. IMO...a huge difference. :bassist:
 
I recently sold my mid-90's MIM P to a friend who was in dire need of an instrument. It had that unmistakable bark, great response, and one of the best tone pots I've seen on any bass. I'd replace it with another one of that vintage in a heartbeat.
Of course, every instrument is different, no matter who makes them, so I'd try it before I'd buy it.