More of a case of you were rejecting every suggestion based on price. So I suggested something that you probably should be able to minimally afford.
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Tall & Light Bass Cabs?
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See, for me, a simple working stiff, Audiokinses' offerings and their ilk are simply out of reach, and I don't really see the significant return in that kind of outlay anyway. Besides, life has other needs.
And I'm sorry, but the tone of your reply smacked of condescension... what I "should be able to afford" is not the discussion here. But perhaps I misread you... perhaps not. I am trying, yes to do this on the cheap. I do think this became obvious.
Yeah, I probably could have worded things better, but typing on the phone, you know, you get economic with words, and then next thing you know, words start to sound snippy. I really did suggest the most affordable (but good) cab that is tall and narrow that I could think of. I was merely suggesting that if even the TC K210 at $399 is something you can't afford, you're probably asking a question without an actual answer. And even though it's a 210 and not a 212, it's taller and narrower than your GK Cab, which is what I interpreted to mean you wanted. Your GK 212 is 23.5" high and 24.5" wide, and the TC is 27.2" high and 15.6" wide. They made it to be the same height as the TC K212 ($449), which is 27.2" high and 18" wide. Either would be easier to hug up and down the stairs than a square shaped cabinet.
It might help if you stated what you can spend. Cheap and inexpensive are relative.
They used to say loud, light and low, pick two. Now you can have all three. All it takes is money.
They used to say loud, light and low, pick two. Now you can have all three. All it takes is money.
Well I'm willing to field ideas, and yes money is a simple problem if you can get it. I'm a wage-earning family guy with limits. I'm looking to spend under $500 used. I do think that is plenty for a gig- box. I'm not looking to impress with my nice stash, just really trying to load in at 3 am without an arduous task upon me.
I get the phone thing, I'm doing it now... eh. But it works!...
And yes, old rough stone steps get icy and nasty, can be sketchy to traverse when burdened with an awkward package. That, and a narrow front entrance to our 200 year-old stone house...
Ok, so I've got some good stuff here, thanks everyone for your help and good humor! You too, @honeyiscool!... I'm still listening, just pausing to say thanks, and I'm doing homework.
Used cabs are so hard to predict. I don't know, but bear with me on this line of thinking. So is that $500 total? But you already have a GK 212-II, that's a $599 cab, not a cheap cabinet by all means. It's actually a really good midrange cabinet already. I got some friends who would kill to have that cabinet because they're using a Rumble 150 combo to gig with. I'm not saying this to make you feel worse for not appreciating what you have. I'm just stating the facts here.
Say you somehow get convinced by my plugging of the TC K212 and end up buying one. I mean, is it really a tonal upgrade? Probably not. It's a sideways move at best, maybe some might consider it an upgrade, some a downgrade. And so will anything be like that, at the $500 used range. You might get more favorable dimensions, but will you be satisfied with the tone? It's not clear. And then what if you end up shopping for a third cab to satisfy your needs? It just seems like a bit of a waste to me.
So, once again, bear with me here. For instance, someone ahead of me suggested a Bergantino. Right now on my local classifieds, there's a Bergantino CN212 for $950. Which, you know, it sounds like a lot, but it really might be the very last cab you might ever buy. That truly is a fine cabinet. We all know that thing's not gonna sell for $950. It's going to sit on the classifieds for a few weeks at that price. Say you can talk that cab down a little bit. Now, you're talking about a cabinet that is both an upgrade dimensionally and tonally. This is completely hypothetical, because obviously your own local used market is different. But say you can find something boutique that is a tall 212 that can be had for $900 range, right? This might let you sell your GK212-II and end up being somewhere in that $500-range net. But who knows, right? The used market is really difficult to predict. But if you're savvy, you might come out a winner having upgraded your sound and your late night load-ins.
Like you, I am a working stiff. I'm a salaried worker working a desk job, I have limited income, and I don't exactly make money from music (I make a few hundred in a good month). But I like nice things. I only sprung the cash for a Bergantino (well, two) when I realized that the more I delayed the inevitable, the more money I'd spend on lesser products that don't quite do it for me. I haven't seen a single suggestion on this thread for an affordable $500 cab that's going to be a clear upgrade for you unless you aren't all that particular and you just want a taller, narrower cab, then by all means get the TC K cabs, they're great. Since you already have a solid gigging cab, if you're going to get another one, it might be time to see if there's something at another price range altogether, and not just assume that those cabs are for "those guys."
Say you somehow get convinced by my plugging of the TC K212 and end up buying one. I mean, is it really a tonal upgrade? Probably not. It's a sideways move at best, maybe some might consider it an upgrade, some a downgrade. And so will anything be like that, at the $500 used range. You might get more favorable dimensions, but will you be satisfied with the tone? It's not clear. And then what if you end up shopping for a third cab to satisfy your needs? It just seems like a bit of a waste to me.
So, once again, bear with me here. For instance, someone ahead of me suggested a Bergantino. Right now on my local classifieds, there's a Bergantino CN212 for $950. Which, you know, it sounds like a lot, but it really might be the very last cab you might ever buy. That truly is a fine cabinet. We all know that thing's not gonna sell for $950. It's going to sit on the classifieds for a few weeks at that price. Say you can talk that cab down a little bit. Now, you're talking about a cabinet that is both an upgrade dimensionally and tonally. This is completely hypothetical, because obviously your own local used market is different. But say you can find something boutique that is a tall 212 that can be had for $900 range, right? This might let you sell your GK212-II and end up being somewhere in that $500-range net. But who knows, right? The used market is really difficult to predict. But if you're savvy, you might come out a winner having upgraded your sound and your late night load-ins.
Like you, I am a working stiff. I'm a salaried worker working a desk job, I have limited income, and I don't exactly make money from music (I make a few hundred in a good month). But I like nice things. I only sprung the cash for a Bergantino (well, two) when I realized that the more I delayed the inevitable, the more money I'd spend on lesser products that don't quite do it for me. I haven't seen a single suggestion on this thread for an affordable $500 cab that's going to be a clear upgrade for you unless you aren't all that particular and you just want a taller, narrower cab, then by all means get the TC K cabs, they're great. Since you already have a solid gigging cab, if you're going to get another one, it might be time to see if there's something at another price range altogether, and not just assume that those cabs are for "those guys."
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I can follow that logic. But as a broker than broke player myself I can see a flaw. The cash flow. He'll have to pony up for the boutique on the assumption he will get $xxx.xx on the sale of the current cab he needs until there is a replacement in hand. Otherwise, yes, buy right buy once and all that.
Just out of curiosity, are you otherwise happy with your GK 212?
I'm sure it's been considered, but just in case, I perpetually have one of these in my car's trunk for when I'd rather wheel my cab instead of carry it.
There's also something to be said for the thinking in honey's post above mine. You'll be unhappy if you take a sonic step backwards just in the name of convenience. Would probably be best to wait to upgrade sonically as well as in form - especially since IMO those GK 12" Neos are some of the best cabs available in their price-range.
I'm sure it's been considered, but just in case, I perpetually have one of these in my car's trunk for when I'd rather wheel my cab instead of carry it.
There's also something to be said for the thinking in honey's post above mine. You'll be unhappy if you take a sonic step backwards just in the name of convenience. Would probably be best to wait to upgrade sonically as well as in form - especially since IMO those GK 12" Neos are some of the best cabs available in their price-range.
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That has always been the reason why I didn't just buy the boutique things. But if you end up losing $200 every time you sell a midrange cab to buy another, and IMO cabs are easily the hardest things to sell because they're big and attract relatively few eyeballs looking to buy, after you've gone through 2-3 cycles, you've already paid what you would have paid for the nice things. I mean, the math is sound. I know finances don't always work like that, but if the OP already has $500 set aside in mind for a cab and roll around town with a GK MB212 Neo II, perhaps affording a higher ticket price is just a matter of moving some funds from here and there and just absorbing a slight red item in the ledger and waiting for the right things to happen. Because a GK MB212 Neo II + $500 to spend for a new cab is not how a broke player thinks.
I know actually broke musicians and their thought process is more like, how can I afford a new Speakon cable?That's what I'm worried about. Those are really nice cabs, and there's a good chance that whatever you can buy at $500 won't really be all that.
Call Don Oatman/Low Down Sound (LDS). He's your man.
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Another vote for the Bergantino 212's - my CN212 is fairly tall with a very reasonable footprint, as well as being an easy one hand carry. In terms of sound quality and putting out serious volume, it's tough to beat!
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