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Taurus pistols

Toptube said:
The horror speculation here is interesting. Even you bought a Taurus or any brand and got one of the "bad" ones, if its well cleaned and maintained and you are using ammo that you know fires through it consistently enough, I doubt its going to magically jam on you in a couple of shots.

If you are carrying a dirty gun loaded with some new ammo type that you just got, Yeah you might be asking for it.

Guns jam all the time in a couple of shots. My last Taurus revolver would bind up frequently, making it unacceptable for self defense use.
 
A co-worker of mine has a model 627 tracker revolver (.357 mag) revolver as his service pistol, and its a pretty cool gun. Its super easy to shoot, has a great trigger, but it is LOUD. People stop shooting at the range to wait for you to finish because its so friggin' loud.

That being said, I wouldn't own one of their semi-autos. I've heard some really nasty reports of failures on them. In fact, I work as a juvenile probation officer where we are asked to carry a concealed firearm for our own protection, and my chief specifically asks that no one carries a Taurus semi-auto. The failure reports are just too high.

Yeah, I'm quoting myself here.

I thought I'd put in my own recommendation. I routinely carry two different pistols for work: 1) S&W Bodyguard .38 revolver, and 2) a Walther PK380.

Both pistols have been simply fantastic, and they aren't much more than any Taurus. My only problem is I can't decide which one I like better!
 
I've shot with Beretta, FN, Colt, S&W, Sig Sauer, Jericho, Ruger, Mause, Glock & Walther.

Pistols:
My preference goes to the FN HP 9x19 Parabellum & The Colt 1911 45ACP for the build like a tank quality, mines will long last after my death and the Sig Sauer P 226, this gun was made like jewellery watches.

Revolvers:
S&W 486 (357mag) loaded with high-powered 38 special.
4 inches, not too long, not too short, not too heavy and great control during the shot.
 
I have maintained a log of 630 rounds through my carry gun. I know every malfunction it's ever had, which brand ammo failed to feed and which position it was in which brand magazine and all my mags are numbered. I also log the times I've stripped and cleaned/lubed it. During the 500 round break in period my malfuction rate was 2%. Nothing serious that couldn't be fixed with a tap-bang.

The last 200 rounds were flawless and the final 100 were of my very expensive .45 JHP carry ammo, without malfunction. It took a lot of cash spent on ammo and mags to become 100% confident in my carry weapon, but keeping the log lets me know exactly how she performs.
 
Depending on the need, I like the SIG SAUER P226, the Glock G19, and the Walther P99. Although each one gets pretty much the same time at the range, I carry the SIG most often. I have small hands and it's well-balanced and more comfortable to me. Plus, if it got hung up in my purse, I could just use the loaded handbag to give a good wallop.
 
Guns jam all the time in a couple of shots. My last Taurus revolver would bind up frequently, making it unacceptable for self defense use.

Then there's something seriously wrong with that gun, or you've been using it to pound nails. A maintained quality wheel gun should rarely if ever jam. I've owned my Smith .22 for 30 years, fired tens of thousands of rounds through it and never once has it jammed.
 
Then there's something seriously wrong with that gun, or you've been using it to pound nails. A maintained quality wheel gun should rarely if ever jam. I've owned my Smith .22 for 30 years, fired tens of thousands of rounds through it and never once has it jammed.

Amen. Although I'm as reluctant as anyone to spend extra money, giving a firearm to a good gunsmith for a tune-up is a no-brainer if you have problems like that. Even for so-so performance and a moderate price firearm, a gunsmith can improve things.

The only function issues I have ever encountered with my revolvers has been a bit of cylinder binding on my Model 28 S&W when shooting 150+ consecutive rounds of cheap reload ammo through it. Powder and lead tried to build up a bit at the cylinder/barrel interface, which is pretty tight. It never failed to cycle and fire, though.

I agree with those above - a firearm MUST function reliably. If not, repairs are needed. I just had a gunsmith work over my Llama .22 semi-auto and he discovered that the end of the firing pin was broken. It had been misfiring intermittently - works fine now.
 
Then there's something seriously wrong with that gun, or you've been using it to pound nails. A maintained quality wheel gun should rarely if ever jam. I've owned my Smith .22 for 30 years, fired tens of thousands of rounds through it and never once has it jammed.

Any well built, well maintained firearm should rarely, if ever, jam. My Glock 19 has seen in excess of 10,000 rds with no jams. The Taurus was (and this was my point, for those not paying attention) poorly built.
 
Went to a gun show this weekend. Was looking outside the Taurus line for sure. I fell in love with the S&W M&P .45, Beretta 90-two, and P4X Storm for feel. I have shot my friend's 90-two before and loved it, kind of forgot about that gun in my search. I think I will try to spend the extra cash and get one for myself. Any of you own the 90-two?
 
I've been working for the last eight weeks part time in a very busy gun shop. I see a huge difference in quality just in the few returns I've seen. I've seen Ruger, Springfield, and Taurus come back. But the difference is with the Rugers and Springfields, fixing the problem was a matter of proper break in, maybe a tweak in the ejector or lubrication issues. With the Taurus returns something broke. Not one of the employees that works there including management would own one. I use to think you would be OK with the revolvers, but I've seen two frozen revolvers returned. Sorry the only Taurus I would consider would be one I couldn't possibly trust my life with, perhaps a .22 for plinking.

I would much more quickly suggest a used Glock, Springfield XD or S & W M and P.

I carry a Kimber 1911, but 1911's are expensive. If you want to carry a .45 check out the Glock 36, they are single stack so a lot thinner and easier to conceal. With the +1 magazines they are comfortable shooters too.
 
Glock is top of the list dude. Reliable, simple, accurate and parts are common and cheap. As far as caliber, all pistol calibers SUCK at stopping power, I carry a Glock 17 because it has more BBs than the Glock 21 (although I still want a Glock 21sf .45acp...actually I want a full size Glock in .45acp, 10mm, and 9mm). Honestly though, your skill level is more important than hardware. You need to work on your training, look up Suarez International, there is a forum and they offer training world wide. Just the same with a bass, skill is what counts.
 
I have a Taurus PT1911. It`s the first(and only) .45 I bought. I really like it. I`ve had no problems with mine in the 3-4 years that I`ve had it. I wouldn`t pick it as a concealed carry gun,I think it`s a bit too big.

I have a Glock 19 me and my girlfriend share I that think is tough,reliable and small enough for concealed carry.