As far as I know, and despite others' comments here, I'm pretty sure this whole tweaker deal requires special firmware in the RH450 ... We just don't know right now.
I'm more curious about the ability to load/save presets to an external device than the Tweaker software, but I suppose that's still a big unknown.
... I'm betting it has more to do with how many buttons they wanted to have on the face of the unit.
Perhaps, although it could probably be done without more buttons - maybe using the "shift" button with the preset buttons to allow moving up and down through banks (or does that already do something else?)
Sounds like you bring a TON of gear to each gig ...
Not really, but I travel a lot and it would be great to have an ultralight, convenient setup I could move and still get a consistent sound in several locations with just a few extra cabinets.
... I understand your quandary, but would suggest you are in a very tiny minority of the bass market as a result, where three presets are plenty.
Probably true, but I'm not the first one even on this thread to indicate that some standard external control interface (like MIDI) would be a welcome feature.
... presets can be used as base points ... have one preset "close" to two or more needs, where only one minor tweak of one knob a few clicks either way is all that's needed for some of your varying requirements...
That's a good point. In any case, it would be much better than zero presets, which is what just about everything else has!
Actually, you do NOT know that ... unless you're specifically talking about as it is currently today, in which case I'd agree.
Yep, I was only talking about the potential to connect to a "stock" RH450 and send/receive presets (via MIDI / sysex or something similar), not the Tweaker software.
... I think a lot of the characteristics of this amp as it stands today, as well as this very research effort, prove they understand our needs and concerns.
FWIW, I am rather surprised - and very impressed - that they not only initiated this program, but actually allow y'all to discuss it in public. That in and of itself proves quite a bit.
... WAY too early to even suppose ... We are ONLY doing a research project here to understand ways to improve the product ... THAT IS ALL.
Um, maybe I'm missing something, but most of what I said was trying to offer suggestions on how to improve the product. Specifically, besides bringing up the limited number of presets, I wanted to reinforce the idea (which others have already mentioned) that some way to remotely control load/save presets on the RH450 would be a welcomed addition, completely independently from the Tweaker software.
I suspect TC is watching this thread closely, and the way they set this up indicates that they are already willing to think outside the box, so to some degree ANY ideas or feedback is valued. While I don't expect them to simply announce that they'll ship this to anyone who wants it tomorrow, I do expect that they will very seriously consider just about any suggestion that comes through this thread. Doesn't mean they're automatically going to do it, but at least they're listening. Otherwise it would not have been worth the time to write all this up.
Regarding your "wait until" comment, I'm sure the last thing TC wants from this is for people to stop buying product because they think some major huge new feature or capability is on the immediate horizon and don't want to miss out on anything. It could very well be a long time before we even know what is productized from this effort.
Yeah, I can see that. I probably could have worded that better... for me it's not a case of holding off on purchase due to the fear of missing out. It's more that I wasn't even considering the RH450 as an option until I saw this thread. What I really want doesn't exist yet. While the RH450 comes close to meeting my (admittedly atypical, but unlikely unique) needs, if I'm going to accept a compromise I can get by a lot cheaper.
I very specifically went looking for a solution which would give me a solid, compact, and flexible preamp/EQ section w/effects loop, a good DI output, and the ability to store and recall multiple (more than 3) setups. I wasn't necessarily looking for an integrated power amp or compression (although have less gear to worry about is a bonus). I didn't realize anyone made a compact, digitally controlled head until I saw the RH450. In many ways it's probably more than I need, except for having so few presets. But the possibility of getting past that limit via MIDI would potentially make it nearly perfect for me - if I knew I'd be able to do this sometime in the near future I'd probably already have one on order.
Again, I agree that there probably aren't a huge number of people out there who would be happily buying one if only it had a MIDI/USB port, or 30 preset memories instead of 3 (besides, what's the alternative?). OTOH, I might not be the only one, and if I were in TC's shoes I'd certainly want to know that something potentially as simple as the ability to store more presets could mean more sales. Or that being limited to only three might be enough to keep a few prospects waiting for BASS 3.0...
It's been a long time since I went looking for new bass gear, and I guess I was expecting a lot more digitally controllable mid to high end equipment. I was writing MIDI patch editors 25 years ago, so I suppose I've always expected things to move that way (digital automation, even with analog signal paths). TC has already done the hard work to make that possible, all they need to do is open it up so that we can use it. From what we've heard in this thread, it seems that the hardware is already capable, it's just a matter of providing the cable and firmware for MIDI access. That would be a very exciting feature. I'm actually surprised it wasn't available from the start.
Anyhow, I'm sure I've said more than enough to get my point across. And again, the reason I spent the time to write (and write, and write) was that I have quite a bit of respect for TC's willingness to put together this kind of program. I'm not complaining about what I think they got wrong, I'm trying to explain what would make their product more compelling to me, because it seems they actually care enough to be interested in that, and it's is so tantalizingly close...