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TC Electronic RH450 discussion - Tweaking the Preamp

#21
JackANSI said:
But to not (eventually) release something like this to the people that already bought one would kinda irk me the wrong way. I really don't care about anyone else who buys one down the line. When the changes are made to the next model, it might make the next version far superior to mine (thus making mine worth less on the used market) and actually be all software related.
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I think you are confused perhaps. The items we are testing will work with any RH450 already released. It's just a matter of whether the tweaking tool and actual end-user experience in using it is pleasant or not. That's really all we are testing. Things like:

Does it work well?
Does the software cause problems on the PC?
Does it save settings easily?
Could it screw up the RH450?
Is it easy to understand?
Can I find a tone that works?
How do I get back to defaults?

And on and on. As Vic says, it seems most folks are interested in the LPF mostly, and that could easily be incorporated in a new product down the road, perhaps simply adding a Tweetertone knob as on the new combos.
 
#23
Eublet said:
I think you are confused perhaps. The items we are testing will work with any RH450 already released. It's just a matter of whether the tweaking tool and actual end-user experience in using it is pleasant or not. That's really all we are testing. Things like:

Does it work well?
Does the software cause problems on the PC?
Does it save settings easily?
Could it screw up the RH450?
Is it easy to understand?
Can I find a tone that works?
How do I get back to defaults?

And on and on. As Vic says, it seems most folks are interested in the LPF mostly, and that could easily be incorporated in a new product down the road, perhaps simply adding a Tweetertone knob as on the new combos.
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My guess is, that's where I'm going to come out.... all the micro adjustments are probably over the top for the vast majority of users (although I'm looking forward to messing with it). A 'variable lo pass' control (which seems to be what the tweeter tone control is on the new amp) would make this amp absolutely, totally, completely, utterly perfect for me in every way.

My dream would be to move the compressor to its own knob (like on the classic), and then change the 'shift' function on the pre gain knob to the lo pass thing... allowing you to either keep it a bit old school sounding, or move up to the modern sizzle range if you want on a preset.
 
#24
I think many of us generally agree. LPF... maybe even adjustable, direct access to the compressor without having to use the shift button, etc., are also on my short list. IMHO, probably the only things that should be in the "shift" mode are frequency centers and level control... MAYBE some kind of Q control.
 
#25
I think perhaps the ability to change these via program, like we are going to be doing, might also be an option for keeping the RH quite 'future proof' for quite a substantial amount of time. Its definitely loud enough for everything I do.

But, there are obviously lots of potential new options....:)
 
#26
Vic said:
I think many of us generally agree. LPF... maybe even adjustable, direct access to the compressor without having to use the shift button, etc., are also on my short list. IMHO, probably the only things that should be in the "shift" mode are frequency centers and level control... MAYBE some kind of Q control.
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I'm not particularly sensitive to Q control in the mid, but am looking forward to messing with it. It would be nice for DB players to have that control (i.e., to make the upper mid control into a sort of 'notch cut' control for problem feedback). However, for most, being able to move the shelving start point of the bass control (already a function of the RH450/Staccato) would most probably be enough to control that key 'bass to low mid' ratio.

Anyway, fun stuff!
 
#30
jokerjkny said:
nice!

but is there a "apple/mac" test version? especially considering how many of us use/record w/ protools?
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There is not. I assume if the test goes well and if they decide to release this as a product in a year or two or whatever, they will port to the 'mac' operating system also.

Again, there is SO much EQ power in the RH450 already that this is more of a 'kind of cool thing' than anything else. There would be very few who could not get the tone they want or need out of the RH450 with four bands of semi-parametric EQ! That being said, I am excited to be chosen/asked to be one of the evaluators, and we will put this through its paces and post up for everyone!
 
#34
My plan (which may fail!) is to set up the RH450 tester powering the RS210, and then using my Boomerang III looper to loop various types of passages and tweak in real time with my portable PC, while capturing this on my new little Zoom video/audio recorder.

I guess the worst that will happen is you will see me blow up good... real good:p
 
#36
On a side note, is everyone getting the Timothy B. Schmitt CD advertisement in their banner quite a bit. I love Timothy's singing and playing, but he looks like Skeletor at this point.... kind of creepy:eek:
 
#39
I'm only saying it would suck, for the unlucky lot who don't have access to such a tool, have to watch as their resale value is knocked down a bit by what amounts to a 'firmware upgrade'.

I am assuming: That this will lead to a new 'staccato' like version with the changes that are useful and have been discussed already (LPF, compressor, etc), all other hardware being the same of course.
 

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