TC RH450 Club

[BassBH]

One thing to keep in mind is that the three-cabinet option is only recommended for their cabinets.
They had their drivers engineered to have impedance characteristics which allowed them to run as three "8 ohm" cabs at once, safely. Part of that comes from the custom drivers TC had Eminence make for them.

I do not recommend doing three cabs of another brand with the TC head. I know a few who tried it ended up with hair-trigger amp shutdown as the speakers fell too far outside the acceptable specifications to run as a set of three.

Besides, I can't really see a reason to use three large cabs with the amp. It's hellishly loud with two 4x10s or 2 1x12s.

I guess I need to read the manual again. I thought the max was 2 TCE cabs, and you had to go to an RH750 if you wanted to use 3. Maybe best to burn the manual, so I won't be kicking myself for trying to get a guy to break up his 2 RS210s (at a complete steal of a deal) to go with my RS212.

 

[frankie5string]

No, it's max 3 of ONLY TC cabs on the 450 or the 750. lol!
They only recommend up to two non-TC cabs for the 450, 750, and Blacksmith.
Two RS212s are beasts. I few guys I know who play bass in EDM bands use the 450 and two 2x12s and they pound.

I guess I need to read the manual again. I thought the max was 2 TCE cabs, and you had to go to an RH750 if you wanted to use 3. Maybe best to burn the manual, so I won't be kicking myself for trying to get a guy to break up his 2 RS210s (at a complete steal of a deal) to go with my RS212.

 

[Wicked G]

No, it's max 3 of ONLY TC cabs on the 450 or the 750. lol!
They only recommend up to two non-TC cabs for the 450, 750, and Blacksmith.
Two RS212s are beasts. I few guys I know who play bass in EDM bands use the 450 and two 2x12s and they pound.

That was just a marketing thing to get you to buy 3 TC cabs. It was revealed several years back that the TC RH heads are actually 2.67 ohms safe and I have done it many times with TC and GK cabs.

 

[frankie5string]

Except I've seen non TC cabs put the RH450 into protection running as three cabs.

It was never revealed as a marketing thing. Sure, some cabs will work, but some will definitely not. I've seen three Eden XT210s put it into protection mode repeatedly. Also seen three GK CX 210 cabs do it too.

That was just a marketing thing to get you to buy 3 TC cabs. It was revealed several years back that the TC RH heads are actually 2.67 ohms safe and I have done it many times with TC and GK cabs.

 

[Wicked G]

Except I've seen non TC cabs put the RH450 into protection running as three cabs.

It was never revealed as a marketing thing. Sure, some cabs will work, but some will definitely not. I've seen three Eden XT210s put it into protection mode repeatedly. Also seen three GK CX 210 cabs do it too.

Well if you have seen it with your own 2 eyes then I can't argue with experience.

 

[Burchybass]

Ill be using 2x TCE BC208 cabs initially. I love the punch and tightness of the 208 but recognise that to move enough air you need more surface area, hence the consideration of a third cab.
The document below is from TCE's website under the download section of the RH450.
The bottom table shows a minimum load of 2.66ohms. I.e. 3 x 8ohm cabs?
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[Wicked G]

Ill be using 2x TCE BC208 cabs initially. I love the punch and tightness of the 208 but recognise that to move enough air you need more surface area, hence the consideration of a third cab.
The document below is from TCE's website under the download section of the RH450.
The bottom table shows a minimum load of 2.66ohms. I.e. 3 x 8ohm cabs?
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Now see that is exactly what I remembered, but was too lazy to look it up yesterday. And that is why I have tried that before several times without worry and was successful doing it. Thank you.

 

[Burchybass]

Now see that is exactly what I remembered, but was too lazy to look it up yesterday. And that is why I have tried that before several times without worry and was successful doing it. Thank you.

No worries Wicked G.
I'll report back once I've taken delivery and thanks for your input.

 

[drpepper]

TCE cabinets are tested to be safe. Others are not and may or may not be safe.

Impedance ratings of 2, 4, 8 are "nominal" ratings taken from a measurement. I found a document and one point a recall the labeling standard uses a lower limit of 80%, so for example, a speaker with a measurement of 6.4 ohms is properly labeled as 8 ohms and at 6.3 it would be properly labeled as 4 ohms. Also, impedance isn't fixed; it varies with frequency. The measurement standard involves a signal analysis and uses the value at (I think it was) 400 Hz of the curve for labeling purposes...it's a more complex calculation, but that would but the nutshell version.

 

[gard0300]

I’ve been running the RH750 with the 112 cabs. I’m still in the honeymoon phase after 4 years! If it died tomorrow, I’d buy another one. I use a single 112 for coffee house type gigs, two 112s for small club shows and all three 112s for larger stages or outdoor events. Receive compliments on the rug almost every show.

 

[60bass]

I’ve been running the RH750 with the 112 cabs. I’m still in the honeymoon phase after 4 years! If it died tomorrow, I’d buy another one. I use a single 112 for coffee house type gigs, two 112s for small club shows and all three 112s for larger stages or outdoor events. Receive compliments on the rug almost every show.

I've got the 450 with two of the RS112'S. Great setup and easy to transport too. The RS112 is a strange looking cab but I really like the punch and tone it delivers.
No complaints from me and not looking to change rigs anytime soon.

 

[mtb777]

First get ready for the naysayers to chime in with the same old tc lied to us about power ratings. The tc RH threads are full of it. IDK maybe they've calmed down by now.

As fas a rated power goes. You should get the same power at 4 ohms as you do at 2.66. Tc uses a "reactive" type of wattage rating which if explained doesn't really tell you much. I own a RH450 and two RS112 cabs and it's damn loud.

There's a thread on it here. My advice just crank it and enjoy it. I love mine.

TC Electronics RH450 Quasi-Wattage Ratings Discussion Thread

Ditto here! RH450, RC4, RS210 on an RS212 and don’t get to play out much as we go silent stage almost always, straight into the FOH board thru (small board with VTDI and M87, TC Chorus, Verb, and Delays) at Church but we did a Night of Worship recently and I kept up easily with a rented, pro run system with 4 1000 watt tops and 2 1600 watt subs and the sound guy loved it and tweaked me at about 8 on my RH450. It’s been a while for me to do any pant leg flapping and it sounded and FELT great for a really nice change!
MY HOME PRACTICE SYSTEM is Mackie 3-way 1530’s (1600) and Thump 15A’s (1000) run through ProFX 16 (Roland, keys, guitars) and ProFX 8 (vox) boards. I plug into my stack. Just so good!!

 

[mtb777]

I guess I need to read the manual again. I thought the max was 2 TCE cabs, and you had to go to an RH750 if you wanted to use 3. Maybe best to burn the manual, so I won't be kicking myself for trying to get a guy to break up his 2 RS210s (at a complete steal of a deal) to go with my RS212.

Two RS210’s on a flat RS212 would be awesome! Yikes!
Yep 3 for both the RH450 and 750!

 

[Irishbass]

Ill be using 2x TCE BC208 cabs initially. I love the punch and tightness of the 208 but recognise that to move enough air you need more surface area, hence the consideration of a third cab.
The document below is from TCE's website under the download section of the RH450.
The bottom table shows a minimum load of 2.66ohms. I.e. 3 x 8ohm cabs?
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I'd love to hear how the RH450 and 2x TCE BC208 cabs pairing works out... so far all the reviews of the BC208 seem to be very positive and the ultra light weight is very appealing

 

[Burchybass]

I'd love to hear how the RH450 and 2x TCE BC208 cabs pairing works out... so far all the reviews of the BC208 seem to be very positive and the ultra light weight is very appealing

I have 2xTC 208 cabs and a BAM200 currently which is great for small pub gigs, but in larger venues I've been running the BAM at almost full volume, hence the R450 on order.

Its due for delivery today! I have a gig on Friday so will post some feedback after that.

 

[frankie5string]

The RH450's power management will definitely utilize those 208s more efficiently.

I have 2xTC 208 cabs and a BAM200 currently which is great for small pub gigs, but in larger venues I've been running the BAM at almost full volume, hence the R450 on order.

Its due for delivery today! I have a gig on Friday so will post some feedback after that.

 

[Burchybass]

The RH450's power management will definitely utilize those 208s more efficiently.

Im sure it will. There seems to be plenty of capacity in the cabs but the BAM had little headroom left.
Im still a big fan of the BAM200 and if we are using the FoH its loud enough for me on stage. Its those middle size gigs where you have no FoH but need to fill the room.

 

[Irishbass]

Its due for delivery today! I have a gig on Friday so will post some feedback after that.

Thanks, Look forward to hearing the verdict

 

[Burchybass]

Lol!!!
Trust me, things are not going to be a little quiet.

So last night i got to use the RH450 live for the first time.
I took my 2 TC208's only to find that the venue had supplied an Ampeg SVT450 and 4x10 cab.
Despite the sound guy asking me to leave my gear in the guy i was determined to give the RH a run out so popped it on top of the supplied rig and ran it through the 4x10.
I know people keep saying it but the volume took me completely by surprise. FoH engineer asked me turn down the on stage level so he could put some bass through the PA. this was in a large club seating 500 people.
Following the soundcheck the engineer approached me to comment on the clarity and tone of the amp.
The amp performed brilliantly during the gig, with all on stage commenting on the bass sound.
The set was Elvis material (we were backing Elvis's keyboard and piano player Glen D. Hardin) which ranged from slow melodic numbers like Lovin Feeling to fast and loud songs like Polk Salad Annie and Suspicious minds with the amp performing equally well across all styles.

In short, its a keeper!

Next gis ill be using the TC208's so will report back then.

 

[Wicked G]

So last night i got to use the RH450 live for the first time.
I took my 2 TC208's only to find that the venue had supplied an Ampeg SVT450 and 4x10 cab.
Despite the sound guy asking me to leave my gear in the guy i was determined to give the RH a run out so popped it on top of the supplied rig and ran it through the 4x10.
I know people keep saying it but the volume took me completely by surprise. FoH engineer asked me turn down the on stage level so he could put some bass through the PA. this was in a large club seating 500 people.
Following the soundcheck the engineer approached me to comment on the clarity and tone of the amp.
The amp performed brilliantly during the gig, with all on stage commenting on the bass sound.
The set was Elvis material (we were backing Elvis's keyboard and piano player Glen D. Hardin) which ranged from slow melodic numbers like Lovin Feeling to fast and loud songs like Polk Salad Annie and Suspicious minds with the amp performing equally well across all styles.

In short, its a keeper!

Next gis ill be using the TC208's so will report back then.

Can't say I'm surprised, cause I'm not. The RH450 is for real.