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Tech 21 bass fly rig

Mine was delivered yesterday but I had a gig last night so I wasn't able to try it out. I've spent about an hour with it and I thought I'd share my impressions.

First some context.

Why did I buy it? Let's start with my current pedalboard.

This thing is large and heavy and can be a PITA to carry around. Sometimes it's the difference between one or two trips to the car at load in/out. With the exception of the Bass Synth Wah which is pretty much it's own animal, the Fly Rig has equivalent functionality for pretty much every pedal on there. The idea of having a mini version of my current board in a tiny package that could fit in my gig bag was too good to pass up. It could be great for short one set gigs, rehearsals, very small stages or the very occasional fly in. Also, I like gadgets and I've been gigging a lot lately so I have some extra cash.

Expectations

This is important. This is a $300 all-in-one vs. approx $1500 worth of very good specialized pedals, pedalboard, power supply and cabling. My expectations were that it would hopefully perform each function moderately well with an understandably limited amount of tweakability. The one exception to this is the SansAmp section. I expected that to be just as good as any stand-alone SansAmp pedal.

Impressions
  • First the SansAmp: No surprises there good or bad, it's just what's been advertised. Very close to the VT Deluxe. That means it's awesome.
  • Comp: It's a one knob compressor with a level and a tone control. All in all it's not bad at all for what it is. It's not particularly versatile, but it's good at basic compression. I like the tone control.
  • Boost: It's a boost with a range of 10db. Basic, useful and a nice touch. Maybe my ears are farther gone than I think but I noticed little to no difference in the sound between the Pre/Post settings. Still, it's useful.
  • Chorus: I was pleasantly surprised by this. Chorus is the one effect I've used consistently since the early 80's and I'm picky about it. The chorus on the Bass Fly Rig is shimmery and full and the single knob affects the signal in a very useful, musical way. Good on ya, whoever engineered it.
  • OctaFilter: An all in one Filter, Octaver and Fuzz. Getting stand alone pedals to do any of these right is tough. Doing all three at once is just asking too much. I would imagine anyone capable of engineering that would probably have a PhD, a couple of post Docs and be heading a team at the NSA designing spy satellites. All this is to say that this is where looking at the Bass Fly Rig with realistic expectations is important.

    So with reasonable (low) expectations from the OctaFilter, what did I think? I was still disappointed. The Octaver does a passable job at producing a frequency one octave below the note it's fed. It doesn't sound anything like the source signal but it's there. Tracking isn't horrible. The divided signal level seems to fluctuate. I'm not saying I won't use this, I will. I'll just be very discriminating about it. The Filter isn't very good. Let's just say that no one will ever hear this filter and think "Bootsy!". A decent filter sound makes you want to play with it and experiment. This just made me want to turn it off. I will say that the "Filtered Octave" setting from the manual is ok. I'd use it for say Uptown Funk at a bar gig or a rehearsal. Which brings us to the Fuzz. Others have touched on this. It's not...good. In any way. At all. It's a weird gated thing that turns a bass signal into a noise that even Thurston Moore couldn't find a use for. My wife thought it was the dog was throwing up.

    Fuzz can have a participation trophy I guess, but I'm sorry Mr. and Mrs. Rig this is a competitive league and your boy Fuzz is spending the season on the bench. He is not going out onto the field. Ever. He'd only embarrass himself, the team, his family, his country and species.

    Harsh? Not if you heard it.
Other features
  • Headphone output. Cool.
  • Tuner. Nice, I love that I can see it very clearly but *** is up with displaying F#, C#, G# and Eb? Sharps or flats. Pick one.
  • Big bright LED lights. Thank you.
  • XLR out. Great if you rehearse or gig without an amp. If not then you won't need it. Until you do and then it's a Godsend.
  • Construction is solid. Metal housing, super sturdy feeling switches. Tech21 excels at build quality and the Bass Fly Rig is no exception.
Overall

It's good for what it is. If you can imagine a use for a great preamp with an ok compressor, good chorus, a boost, and a tuner, then buy it. Don't expect it to replace or be as good as a full pedalboard. That's simply not feasible at a price point of $300 with today's technology.

I like it. I'm keeping it. It's going in my gig bag and I'll use it in the right situations.

If there's a V2 of the Bass Fly Rig I would strongly encourage Tech21 to replace the OctaFilter with functionality that does one, or at most two, things. A better Octaver or an actually useful Filter would be much more valuable than what is there now.
 
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My computer is having a conniption, and I can’t seem to reply, like and/or quote. Anyway, thanks for the rundown from all you blokes, and special mention to marmadaddy for his review. I think I will hold off until I can try one out in-store or pick up a second hand unit. That said, I rarely use an octaver (I have an old Boss OC-2 anyway) and I really don’t use a great deal of fuzz. Again I have pedals that will cover that should I need them.
As a compact unit that I can use for its small size when I am away from home and I don’t have my pedal boards? It ticks the boxes for me on that alone, especially the headphone out. I can use it in combination with a couple of Mooer pedals I have if need be to keep the size/weight load down. And it will fit nicely in my case with all the other bits and pieces.
 
could any of the lucky owners of the flyrig be so kind and try the following:

does the octa-section actually work as a low pass filter?

is it possible to use the boost, set to pre, to get more dirt out of the sansamp?
So you can set up your favorite sound (especially when going ampless), fairly clean,
and then hit the boost to get some dirt out of it ?
 
Two things:

Define "low pass filter" as you see it. In my mind, no. You might be thinking something else when you say low pass filter. That's why I said define it.

Secondly, while the boost in front of the sansamp does add gain, it's not enough to go from fairly clean to grindy dirt.

I'll try to post a video or three today. Just quickie cell phone videos, but they'll show what it does and doesn't do well.
 
I can see keeping this pedal and just using putting a good octaver and distortion in line with it.....but disappointed Tech 21 chose to market it as having those components when the included octave and fuzz are of such low quality. The demos released clearly avoided demonstrating the fuzz and octave effects solo to keep buyers in the dark about their usefulness. Not cool. I can see returning this pedal on principle alone, even though I like the other things it does well. Ultimately I agree they will redesign and release a version 2 with something more useful than the octafilter. Great strategy to get people to buy it twice.
 
I love Tech21, currently have a VT Deluxe, Sansamp, and a Para driver. $300 for a Sansamp, chorus, comp, and tuner is a good deal. Including a useless fuzz and octa-filter turns me off though, don't even put it in there if it isn't the same quality. A moog/synth sound isn't useful to me. Capable separate octaver, filter, and fuzz/distortion is very useful. I'll definitely be avoiding this version.
 
Mine came today. After initial run through, here is my assessment:

Compressor: Great!
Sans Amp: Great!
Chorus: Great!
Octaver: does not track well and distorts
Fuzz: Either I have a defective unit or this is the cheapest, crappiest distortion I have ever heard next the Fishman Fission pedal I tried and returned. I think there might be something wrong with it seriously, the fuzz effect sounds like it's not tracking properly either, it cuts out or jumps out in a very unmusical way...
So what sucks is I really like the effects that work right on this, but I have to send it back because I think the one section is defective. Wondering if I just want to return it and get a B3 which offers a lot more for $100 less...but like I said the effects that work right on this thing are super sweet... Ugh

The Octafilter/Fuzz section is designed for Minimoog "style" octave and fuzz effects and works with a gate. If you're looking for a traditional fuzz and octave effect this may not be the best choice. If the effect is not triggering properly it's possible your output is too low. Try engaging the compressor. There is a more detailed explanation in the manual.
 
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And there you have it. They went for a very specific thing with the octafilter section. If you like it, great. If not, the rest of the pedal is excellent. To me, the filter part will become the ocassional auto filter, no octave, no fuzz. I'm still deciding if I need this, or just use the M80/tuner combo for my small board. Even an MS-60B/direct box will do more. Decisions.
 
Two things:

Define "low pass filter" as you see it. In my mind, no. You might be thinking something else when you say low pass filter. That's why I said define it.

Secondly, while the boost in front of the sansamp does add gain, it's not enough to go from fairly clean to grindy dirt.

I'll try to post a video or three today. Just quickie cell phone videos, but they'll show what it does and doesn't do well.

Well, i mean a cutoff of frequencies above the specified threshold.
You set your sansamp section for a sound that has some twang in it and when you engage the LPF, the twang is gone, the sound is mellow, boomy.
 
Mine was delivered yesterday but I had a gig last night so I wasn't able to try it out. I've spent about an hour with it and I thought I'd share my impressions.

First some context.

Why did I buy it? Let's start with my current pedalboard.

This thing is large and heavy and can be a PITA to carry around. Sometimes it's the difference between one or two trips to the car at load in/out. With the exception of the Bass Synth Wah which is pretty much it's own animal, the Fly Rig has equivalent functionality for pretty much every pedal on there. The idea of having a mini version of my current board in a tiny package that could fit in my gig bag was too good to pass up. It could be great for short one set gigs, rehearsals, very small stages or the very occasional fly in. Also, I like gadgets and I've been gigging a lot lately so I have some extra cash.

Expectations

This is important. This is a $300 all-in-one vs. approx $1500 worth of very good specialized pedals, pedalboard, power supply and cabling. My expectations were that it would hopefully perform each function moderately well with an understandably limited amount of tweakability. The one exception to this is the SansAmp section. I expected that to be just as good as any stand-alone SansAmp pedal.

Impressions
  • First the SansAmp: No surprises there good or bad, it's just what's been advertised. Very close to the VT Deluxe. That means it's awesome.
  • Comp: It's a one knob compressor with a level and a tone control. All in all it's not bad at all for what it is. It's not particularly versatile, but it's good at basic compression. I like the tone control.
  • Boost: It's a boost with a range of 10db. Basic, useful and a nice touch. Maybe my ears are farther gone than I think but I noticed little to no difference in the sound between the Pre/Post settings. Still, it's useful.
  • Chorus: I was pleasantly surprised by this. Chorus is the one effect I've used consistently since the early 80's and I'm picky about it. The chorus on the Bass Fly Rig is shimmery and full and the single knob affects the signal in a very useful, musical way. Good on ya, whoever engineered it.
  • OctaFilter: An all in one Filter, Octaver and Fuzz. Getting stand alone pedals to do any of these right is tough. Doing all three at once is just asking too much. I would imagine anyone capable of engineering that would probably have a PhD, a couple of post Docs and be heading a team at the NSA designing spy satellites. All this is to say that this is where looking at the Bass Fly Rig with realistic expectations is important.

    So with reasonable (low) expectations from the OctaFilter, what did I think? I was still disappointed. The Octaver does a passable job at producing a frequency one octave below the note it's fed. It doesn't sound anything like the source signal but it's there. Tracking isn't horrible. The divided signal level seems to fluctuate. I'm not saying I won't use this, I will. I'll just be very discriminating about it. The Filter isn't very good. Let's just say that no one will ever hear this filter and think "Bootsy!". A decent filter sound makes you want to play with it and experiment. This just made me want to turn it off. I will say that the "Filtered Octave" setting from the manual is ok. I'd use it for say Uptown Funk at a bar gig or a rehearsal. Which brings us to the Fuzz. Others have touched on this. It's not...good. In any way. At all. It's a weird gated thing that turns a bass signal into a noise that even Thurston Moore couldn't find a use for. My wife thought it was the dog was throwing up.

    Fuzz can have a participation trophy I guess, but I'm sorry Mr. and Mrs. Rig this is a competitive league and your boy Fuzz is spending the season on the bench. He is not going out onto the field. Ever. He'd only embarrass himself, the team, his family, his country and species.

    Harsh? Not if you heard it.
Other features
  • Headphone output. Cool.
  • Tuner. Nice, I love that I can see it very clearly but *** is up with displaying F#, C#, G# and Eb? Sharps or flats. Pick one.
  • Big bright LED lights. Thank you.
  • XLR out. Great if you rehearse or gig without an amp. If not then you won't need it. Until you do and then it's a Godsend.
  • Construction is solid. Metal housing, super sturdy feeling switches. Tech21 excels at build quality and the Bass Fly Rig is no exception.
Overall

It's good for what it is. If you can imagine a use for a great preamp with an ok compressor, good chorus, a boost, and a tuner, then buy it. Don't expect it to replace or be as good as a full pedalboard. That's simply not feasible at a price point of $300 with today's technology.

I like it. I'm keeping it. It's going in my gig bag and I'll use it in the right situations.

If there's a V2 of the Bass Fly Rig I would strongly encourage Tech21 to replace the OctaFilter with functionality that does one, or at most two, things. A better Octaver or an actually useful Filter would be much more valuable than what is there now.

Well i just got mine, and i would say marmadaddy's review were bloody on point.
Sansamp is great as usual, comp is decent, chorus is great, boost is what it's supposed to be.
Octafilter was really disappointing though, even with my (because of this review) low expectations. It seems to be only audible with the Q all the way up, hence the Q knob serves more like a switch. I don't think its from a low output bass because i tried with many basses. Unless you play with double humbucker in series, with all the EQ cranked, your experience should be the same as mine. That being said with the Q maxed, the filter sound is usable.. only usable. I can't get the fuzz and octaves to sound decent at all. To me they shouldn't even exist.
Harsh? Thats because i heard it.
Now it makes me wonder why the demos on youtube sounds the way it sounds. Those tones were decent.

But all in all, i think its a fantastic product from tech21. Comp, boost, FANTASTIC dirt, chorus, tuner and a usable filter, all in a couple of pounds and fits into your gig bag. Seriously why isn't everyone getting one.
 
Octaver video. Pardon the laying my phone down with the light on.

Not mentioned in the video, flyrig into the aux in on the Veryron, into a carvin BRX212 combo with no head, so just a sealed 2x12 cab with first generation eminence neo 12s


 
There are sample settings in the manual that may prove helpful. Because the Octafilter section works with a gate it is beneficial to have your instruments volume up. You can also engage the compressor if you feel your instrument isn't triggering the section properly.

An analog octave pedal converts your signal to a square wave which is in turn filtered to provide a more pleasing tone. To get that type of sound engage the Octtave switch with the Mix & Range set at noon. The Q control sets the sharpness of the filter. At minimum it's a static filter and the Range now acts like a tone control. With the Mix all the way up the sound is square wave and more synth like.

Because there were size considerations with the pedal the controls had to cover a number of bases vs having dedicated controls for each section. When you start engaging the different functions your settings will probably need to change. Take your time and get accustomed to what each control does.
 
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