The Acoustic Club

[Low End Curse]

New Amp Day! Scored an excellent condition 320/406 set up to add to my 370/301 rig.

 

[Count Bassie]

I totally agree w/both @Count Bassie and @Roxbororob.

The Stingray will take some ‘careful’ use of volume controls on both bass and amp, whereas any passive bass these amps are just more happy with.

Experimentation indicated that the active basses didn’t sound as clean ‘wide open’, but a happy spot was possible.

I also noticed that my 270 was a little more unhappy with my active basses than my others (120-126 & 320), but even that depends on how much headroom you have for the situation.

For gigs with ACC gear so far the only actives I have used were a MIM Marcus Miller jazz and a MIA P-bass Deluxe a/p.
The P got used both active and passive, while the active-only Jazz was tamed with the volume controls.

That jazz-ACC combination earned kudos from audience members to the sound tech at an annual outdoor big-stage gig.

The old-school tech, who usually compliments my sound every year knew exactly how to mic my old-school rig:

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I’d brought modern gear every year and he used direct out and liked it, but when I showed up with my ACC stack, he grinned wide and said, ‘I know what to do’.
First time people came to the sound desk to mention how great the bass sounds.

He mic'd it. Did he go out the back panel as well? The 370 has a Booster Out... is that a similar connection on your amp? (Edit: That's a 320, isn't it?)
I must know...

 

[StereoPlayer]

New Amp Day! Scored an excellent condition 320/406 set up to add to my 370/301 rig. View attachment 3186789

Very cool!

 

[ghostinthemach]

He mic'd it. Did he go out the back panel as well? The 370 has a Booster Out... is that a similar connection on your amp? (Edit: That's a 320, isn't it?)
I must know...

He mic’d only.

Yes that’s a 320 and it has 3 pre outs A, B & combined.

I’ve used the pre-amp out on my 126 to feed in-ears, but it’s sometimes noisy so a direct box helped with that.

Seems a good clean pre-amp out for direct is a modern development.

 

[StingRay85]

New Amp Day! Scored an excellent condition 320/406 set up to add to my 370/301 rig. View attachment 3186789

Awesome!

 

[StingRay85]

I totally agree w/both @Count Bassie and @Roxbororob.

The Stingray will take some ‘careful’ use of volume controls on both bass and amp, whereas any passive bass these amps are just more happy with.

Experimentation indicated that the active basses didn’t sound as clean ‘wide open’, but a happy spot was possible.

I also noticed that my 270 was a little more unhappy with my active basses than my others (120-126 & 320), but even that depends on how much headroom you have for the situation.

For gigs with ACC gear so far the only actives I have used were a MIM Marcus Miller jazz and a MIA P-bass Deluxe a/p.
The P got used both active and passive, while the active-only Jazz was tamed with the volume controls.

That jazz-ACC combination earned kudos from audience members to the sound tech at an annual outdoor big-stage gig.

The old-school tech, who usually compliments my sound every year knew exactly how to mic my old-school rig:

View attachment 3186607

I’d brought modern gear every year and he used direct out and liked it, but when I showed up with my ACC stack, he grinned wide and said, ‘I know what to do’.
First time people came to the sound desk to mention how great the bass sounds.

Thanks for the advice. I will trade my SR5 for a made in US P bass + 200€. Feels strange but the right thing to do

 

[ghostinthemach]

Thanks for the advice. I will trade my SR5 for a made in US P bass + 200€. Feels strange but the right thing to do

This reminds me. I work with a retro-rock group. We play tunes from early 50’s to about 1970.

When I joined I used my gear that I owned. D-class amps, neo cabs. Good stuff for other work I was doing, but in this setting I was constantly fiddling with eq & gain settings looking for what I was hearing in my head. I was well aware of what it needed to sound like.

Enter The Acoustic Club.

I obtained my avatar 126 from GC. Got it home. Plugged in my P-bass and with everything flat, plucked one note and...
[female choir...Ahhhhh]
There was the very sound I’d spent so many hours searching for.

Many records have been made with Ampeg’s flip-top fave, but I’ll bet the second most recorded bass & amp combination is Fender and ACC gear

 

[Count Bassie]

Thanks for the advice. I will trade my SR5 for a made in US P bass + 200€. Feels strange but the right thing to do

Hey, if it's a tone or vibe question, maybe so. But don't give away a bass you love playing! I've done it, to my grief, and now, finally... I'm bringing it down a notch and learning to see things more objectively.
I'll drop money that I've had that issue worse than most of you...
Don't mean to presume, @StingRay85! Just taking the opportunity to be a reminder. I miss my 76 Rickenbacket I bought in '95 for $495. Won't touch it now for under 2Gs... probably 3.

Ok all done!

 

[Roxbororob]

Hey, if it's a tone or vibe question, maybe so. But don't give away a bass you love playing! I've done it, to my grief, and now, finally... I'm bringing it down a notch and learning to see things more objectively.
I'll drop money that I've had that issue worse than most of you...
Don't mean to presume, @StingRay85! Just taking the opportunity to be a reminder. I miss my 76 Rickenbacket I bought in '95 for $495. Won't touch it now for under 2Gs... probably 3.
ay
Ok all done!

I agree. I know I answered that your rig would suit a passive precision but I didnt think it meant getting rid of your ray. Is there no other way to get a Fender?

 

[StingRay85]

I agree. I know I answered that your rig would suit a passive precision but I didnt think it meant getting rid of your ray. Is there no other way to get a Fender?

Sell a kidney?

It's not that Im that attached to the Ray, but i never had gas afterwards. Maybe if a P crossed my path, it would have been the same story. I cannot get into collecting basses

 

[Count Bassie]

Sell a kidney?

It's not that Im that attached to the Ray, but i never had gas afterwards. Maybe if a P crossed my path, it would have been the same story. I cannot get into collecting basses

I have 3 and it's one too many.

 

[redstrand]

Can you jump the channels on a 140(or any two channel Acoustic) like an Ampeg?

 

[StereoPlayer]

Can you jump the channels on a 140(or any two channel Acoustic) like an Ampeg?

I don’t know...wouldn’t keep me from doing it though.

 

[redstrand]

I don’t know...wouldn’t keep me from doing it though.

Saw one for sale and used to do that with old Kustoms too, might be worth a spin. I do have an extra cab laying about.

 

[StereoPlayer]

Saw one for sale and used to do that with old Kustoms too, might be worth a spin. I do have an extra cab laying about.

If it’s @Count Bassie ’s , it looks like a great deal!

 

[StingRay85]

Can you jump the channels on a 140(or any two channel Acoustic) like an Ampeg?

You mean put an effect cable between the -10 dB of channel 1 and put it into the other channel? If it's safe then i wouldnt mind testing it for you

 

[redstrand]

That's what I'm thinking, on the old Kustoms it sounded cool, Ampegs too. The Fender PA 135's I think did that too, If I remember right, you could use the channels to get some awesome sound.

 

[Count Bassie]

@redstrand ... I went to the ACC forum and got an answer- I'm told that yes, you can jump channels. Here

 

[StingRay85]

True, but those are bright/normal channels, in Acoustic they are active/passive. So will there be volume differences?

 

[StingRay85]

On the other hand, you could put a drive pedal in between to compensate any volume loss. And then go from preamp out to my 270 power Amp, to basically create a 2nd gen equivalent of a 320