The 7 tuplet is the odd duck. The mnemonic is "Gina Lollabrida", but that doesn't resonate for me. What help me internalize the 7 tup was descending or ascending 7 note scales, changing the starting note on each pass.
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The dreaded 7 tuplet
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This proves beyond doubt that this is a site for bassists and not drummers! 7’s are beginner stuff to them. There is another thread asking whether drummers are musicians. 
I hear drummers do seventuplets all the time. But none of them intentionally.This proves beyond doubt that this is a site for bassists and not drummers! 7’s are beginner stuff to them. There is another thread asking whether drummers are musicians.
it cannot, because it is supposed to be "Gina Lollobrigida".
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true hip hop legend.
That album was produced in part by his cousin Ice Cube.
Sorry no help with the septuplets, I went hard with the metronome when I saw those in charts maybe 2 times in 30 years.
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awesome, I've been using a hybrid Takitatakadimi.
It’s called Konnakol. I really think it’s a great way to do sub divisions.
My band used to play Money by Pink Floyd - not sevtuplets, but 7/4 timing. Watching drunk people dance to that in a bar - actually some of them did pretty well (If you're dunk enough, you don't notice or care), but those that weren't drunk enough, they were entertaining - they would get horribly confused looks on their faces as they were trying to impress members of the opposite sex with their dancing ability.
Playing sevtuplets is similarly confusing. Maybe try a couple of beers.
Playing sevtuplets is similarly confusing. Maybe try a couple of beers.
Imo, learning a time signature with a base of whatever tuplet is the best way to internalize that tuplet. Getting comfortable with 3/4 internalizes triplets, getting comfortable with 5/4 internalizes pentuplets, and most importantly for the OP, getting comfortable with 7/4 internalizes septuplets.
Aaand before you can get comfortable playing in a new time signature, you gotta get comfortable listening to that new time signature. Consequently, I suggest you listen to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. They play everything, and lots of 7/4 and 7/8 (similar enough):
Aaand before you can get comfortable playing in a new time signature, you gotta get comfortable listening to that new time signature. Consequently, I suggest you listen to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. They play everything, and lots of 7/4 and 7/8 (similar enough):
This proves beyond doubt that this is a site for bassists and not drummers! 7’s are beginner stuff to them. There is another thread asking whether drummers are musicians.
Goody for drummers then. It’s incoming freshman stuff for progrock bassists too.
BTW, I saw a thread asking if DJs are musicians. Where was the one about drummers?
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Mr.Mr. Dobalina was a great idea.
A Groot Rhythmic drill to be able to shift rhythmic units seamlessly
Set metronome at low tempo.How low a tempo depends on your plucking speed and how high a tuplet you are practicing.
Lets say we want to practice up to 10 tuplets. If you can play 16th notes at 100 BPM, your plucking speed is 400 plucks per minute. So if you want to play 10 tuplets, the metrome needs to be slower than 40 bpm.
Set metrome at 40.
Play 8th notes (2 tuplet)
Jump seamlessly to triplets (3 tup)
4 tup
5 tup
Etc. up to 10 tup.
The idea is to shift seamlessly back and forth between tups which means you have to have the "tuplet Sound" in your head.
To build speed, shift back in forth between tup and double tup. I.e. shift back and forth between 16th (4 tup) and 32nd note (8 tup) or 5 tup and 10 tup.
The above method has worked well for boosting my 16th notes from 110 to 140 bpm plus nailing quintups, setups, etc.
My goal are 12 tups, which require way more speed than what I have now.
A Groot Rhythmic drill to be able to shift rhythmic units seamlessly
Set metronome at low tempo.How low a tempo depends on your plucking speed and how high a tuplet you are practicing.
Lets say we want to practice up to 10 tuplets. If you can play 16th notes at 100 BPM, your plucking speed is 400 plucks per minute. So if you want to play 10 tuplets, the metrome needs to be slower than 40 bpm.
Set metrome at 40.
Play 8th notes (2 tuplet)
Jump seamlessly to triplets (3 tup)
4 tup
5 tup
Etc. up to 10 tup.
The idea is to shift seamlessly back and forth between tups which means you have to have the "tuplet Sound" in your head.
To build speed, shift back in forth between tup and double tup. I.e. shift back and forth between 16th (4 tup) and 32nd note (8 tup) or 5 tup and 10 tup.
The above method has worked well for boosting my 16th notes from 110 to 140 bpm plus nailing quintups, setups, etc.
My goal are 12 tups, which require way more speed than what I have now.
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I don't see how tavakididamati is easier or better than
I've always counted 7s as 4 + 3, am I doing it wrong?
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What always amazed me is that drummers frequently have to use word phrases like those to be able to understand and play even triplets, let alone 5s and 7s and higher.
It's very simple math and can be divided into subdivisions allowing for perfect performance.
The hard part is doing it while someone else is doing something completely different, unless the other person is metronome perfect too.... I remember a rehearsal video of the Police where Sting gets totally messed up during a relatively long and very complex drum fill, and Stewart stops and yells at him something akin to "I'm SORRY that 5/4 is too HARD for you" LoL... because I guess Stewart did his fill with a group of 5 in it.
Sting probably just thought Stewart sped up..... and damn I love Stewart's drumming, it's amazing and one of my favorite playing styles ever... but I can understand why Sting thought maybe Stewart sped up, based on Stewart's boredom while playing sometimes making him play faster than usual (I think intentionally, out of spite almost LoL).
It's very simple math and can be divided into subdivisions allowing for perfect performance.
The hard part is doing it while someone else is doing something completely different, unless the other person is metronome perfect too.... I remember a rehearsal video of the Police where Sting gets totally messed up during a relatively long and very complex drum fill, and Stewart stops and yells at him something akin to "I'm SORRY that 5/4 is too HARD for you" LoL... because I guess Stewart did his fill with a group of 5 in it.
Sting probably just thought Stewart sped up..... and damn I love Stewart's drumming, it's amazing and one of my favorite playing styles ever... but I can understand why Sting thought maybe Stewart sped up, based on Stewart's boredom while playing sometimes making him play faster than usual (I think intentionally, out of spite almost LoL).
They can also be counted as 3+4 depending on what the composer wanted.
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