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The "F" word...
- Thread starter Benny the Finger
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Holy **** even I don't say ****-****-************!!
I agree, it all depends on context. If you're in church, then watch your language; if you're in a loud, raucous bar, I wouldn't worry so much.
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I never realized that anyone would equate class and self respect with being an old fuddy duddy lol!!
"pretty much everyone I know" is the beginning of it. There are cultures in Asia and Africa where looking a person in the eye causes the other to feel disgraced. Should they feel that way or are they crazy? The feeling of disgrace is an aberration based on an emotional lie you allow others to tell yourself. It's a leftover from the deep shame many people used to be made to feel for having bodies. Swearing usually refers to bodily functions, so the association with shame/disgrace.
At metal shows like I play the F-Bomb gets used more than commas.
It matters what the vibe is in the venue. If you are playing to an empty room, it looks like you are trying too hard. If you are playing an acoustic set at a coffee house and yell "How are you mother#$%&ers doing tonight!" might be a little uncalled for; unless you are doing ironically, then it might be funny. At a wedding gig; probably not. At a worship service I don't think "#%$& yeah, Jesus" would go over very well.
I have no objection to harsh language in general, as long as it is appropriate and not being purposefully demeaning towards anyone. More than likely the crowd doesn't either if they've had enough to drink.
Now if it bothers you personally beyond the musical context then that is something you can bring up with the band. In an adult world where people can be respectful of each other (a place that is more fantasy now than reality) you should be able to bring this up. For instance I wouldn't be comfortable with my singer calling women b!tches or calling someone a f@g. All they can do is tell you to #%$& off, right?
Fat Steve
The poodle bites, the poodle chews it.
I never realized that anyone would equate class and self respect with being an old fuddy duddy lol!!
If one curses, then they have no class or self respect?
I'd steer clear when possible. We're a cover band so we can't really help what words are in the songs, but we keep it slim to none in between songs. Some venues (bars) ask us to make sure there isn't any profanity at all.
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You're treading on some rather deep subjects such as subjective morality. I said "pretty much everyone I know" because I didn't want to go the TL;DR read route and say that I have also overheard people I DON'T know remark very negatively in response to that sort of thing. I disagree about disgrace being a response to an emotional lie. To me there are definitely "disgraceful" acts/things.
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Not necessarily but I think what prevents some from cursing is what they feel is class and/or self respect. Does that make them a "fuddy duddy" or prude or whatever?
Well, you have to keep in mind that I was an American guy from New York, playing American punk and rock, so they just ate it up as part of my NY/American personality.
For them, I was the "real deal" (said in a humble way), so coming from me, it added to the show for them.
But I have to say, after reading most of this thread, I never realized how many old fuddy duddy's populate this board.
LOL. That has nothing to do with it. I promise you I am known as anything but. There are stories that I would not want shared on this or ANY forum. But I know when and where to cut loose. A business setting is not the place to launch F bombs or be a drunken idiot. If y'all think that is a successful career path go for it. No skin off my butt. It only makes it easier for the bands who act in a somewhat professional manner.
Age has nothing to do with it. Didn't like it when I was 21 and still don't like it now at 57. My son raps and his music is full of cussing. I told him I don't want to hear anything unless it's clean.But I have to say, after reading most of this thread, I never realized how many old fuddy duddy's populate this board.
Like I said, it must be a Rock/Metal thing. The music I play has zero cuss words and I wouldn't play them if they did. To each his own though.
I can absolutely see someone complaining about language with a good band.
We are playing music, right? Do you find certain rock songs and bands classless and lacking self-respect? I guess I take the position that music as a form of self-expression should be free to be in your face sometimes. But, hey, I'm sure class and self-respect are always the first thoughts most musicians and song-writers have when expressing themselves.I never realized that anyone would equate class and self respect with being an old fuddy duddy lol!!
Good for you! I guess I like my music a bit more on the edge sometimes. But then again, words are just words unless you make them a big deal. Some like doing that, I guess. As long as you can find music that doesn't offend you, you'll be fine.
