Tell him the band should just play "The Rodeo Song" at every gig and be done with it.
You can usually count on some crowd participation : )
You can usually count on some crowd participation : )
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The "F" word...
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Would you feel comfortable if he did this anywhere else? What's the difference? I consider the audience to be mixed company. Mind your manners in mixed company. Just because people are in a bar doesn't mean they want to hear some guy dropping F-Bombs.
That being said, a song containing the F-Bomb CAN be appropriate and even comical. But gratuitous use is just cheap, easy, and low class. Avoid it.
I think profanity on stage is lame. Even if for a rowdy rock 'n roll band. Plenty of performers do it. The ones that don't set themselves apart in a good way.
I owned and operated a nightclub that featured live music for a few years. I didn't allow smoking, drinking or cursing on stage....those things are the purview of the customer.
I owned and operated a nightclub that featured live music for a few years. I didn't allow smoking, drinking or cursing on stage....those things are the purview of the customer.
Sounds like a fun nightclub.
I'm a bit shocked that the f-word gets such a rise from grown men on this forum. It's kind of comical and at the same time creepy.
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I feel it is really not needed. You just never know who may be out there listening. Maybe a potential client. It is always better to be on the safe side I feel.
In reality there is no reason to have to swear on stage to show the crowd a good time....I have heard some great bands that swore just to swear....no real need. So if it is not needed then why do it....many other ways to excite the crowd. Just my 1-1/2 cents...
In reality there is no reason to have to swear on stage to show the crowd a good time....I have heard some great bands that swore just to swear....no real need. So if it is not needed then why do it....many other ways to excite the crowd. Just my 1-1/2 cents...
Depends on the entire scene.
Dropping "F" bombs in a quiet jazz lounge between standards for the old timers might not be the best choice of language but at some metal bar with the typical grease monkey attending the show with his drunk buddies, it might be OK.
Remenber Woodstock...."Gimmie' an F".......
Dropping "F" bombs in a quiet jazz lounge between standards for the old timers might not be the best choice of language but at some metal bar with the typical grease monkey attending the show with his drunk buddies, it might be OK.
Remenber Woodstock...."Gimmie' an F".......
I was kidding, in England he has been an actor, brilliant author, tv producer and star, become some kind of Sage now...Hugh Lorrie of "House" was an early partner, they had a comedy sketch series... I think he is having a public argument with Russell Brand right now. I'd rather hang out with Fry than Brand.
It was a legendarily fun nightclub, thank you.
And still in operation. Unfortunately, it is no longer operated with the same principles. It is dirty, generally unpleasant and a man was stabbed to death there one week ago yesterday.
My regard for profanity is most certainly due to my being a grown man. It does not, however, get a rise out of me. I do occasionally feel mild pity for the potty-mouthed.
We don't swear in banter, and if it's a corporate gig or family picnic sort of thing, we scrub song lyrics as well. At bars and clubs we always use genuine lyrics.
Great name for an album.
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One of the bands I'm playing with right now drops an f-bomb in one of their (original) songs. It's gratuitous, and doesn't add anything to an otherwise decent tune. What's worse, depending on the audience, it comes off as juvenile, and coarse. Totally unnecessary ever.
(*unless you slam your hand in a car door. Then, yeah, go ahead... that f'n hurts)
(*unless you slam your hand in a car door. Then, yeah, go ahead... that f'n hurts)
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The late Jack Wagner (long known as "The Voice of Disney") did a great exposition on the flexibility of the F-word in his home studio many years ago:
As far as its usage in a band setting, I'm of the mind that it's safer skipping it, but you do what you think is appropriate.
As far as its usage in a band setting, I'm of the mind that it's safer skipping it, but you do what you think is appropriate.
So...
As many have offered already, the use of the almighty "F bomb" is dependent on context. In my opinion, without knowing real detail, it seems to me that in the OP's context (as described -- a bar gig with no children present) it is unnecessary but not necessarily inappropriate. If it might cost you other work because attendees at those gigs might have otherwise hired you for something else, then I'd try to be on the safe side. If you have any sense of the venue owner's or venue booker's take on the matter, most definitely take that into consideration.
If it makes you uncomfortable, no reason not to raise it for discussion with the singer or the band, and just know that the product of that conversation might end up along the lines of agreeing to disagree. Hopefully, your bandmates are mature enough and your relationships within the band good enough that you can actually talk about this kind of issue without people getting their knickers in a twist.
As many have offered already, the use of the almighty "F bomb" is dependent on context. In my opinion, without knowing real detail, it seems to me that in the OP's context (as described -- a bar gig with no children present) it is unnecessary but not necessarily inappropriate. If it might cost you other work because attendees at those gigs might have otherwise hired you for something else, then I'd try to be on the safe side. If you have any sense of the venue owner's or venue booker's take on the matter, most definitely take that into consideration.
If it makes you uncomfortable, no reason not to raise it for discussion with the singer or the band, and just know that the product of that conversation might end up along the lines of agreeing to disagree. Hopefully, your bandmates are mature enough and your relationships within the band good enough that you can actually talk about this kind of issue without people getting their knickers in a twist.
these threads are great for reminding me how out of touch with reality many of you are.
i'm really sad that this is getting glossed over. although you did post it kind of early in the day.
when we play you oughta know by Alanis, the ladies in the crowd always know the line, and never fail to chime in......
