I'm sure this will result in some flaming, but after the last weekend tour, I'm pissed. The two venues we played at booked a few local bands to get people through the door. Unfortunately, unlike most venues, they didn't require any of the local bands to presell any tickets. As a result, we got a no turnout (literally 4 people) and a low turnout (about 20 people in a venue meant for ~250) Now, remember, this is small time tour stuff, all ages venues, not bar dates, these venues DEPEND on people through the door to see the bands play. Every time we're a local act we're usually required to sell anywhere from 10-50 tickets or we dont get paid to play, but I don't get why so many all ages venues dont require the same thing! it gets people in the door, who can buy concessions at the venue, and for a band like mine that depends more on merch sales than venues paying us (we've been screwed over enough that we never expect to actually be paid at these small places) we need people to actually be at the shows! It makes me want to only book shows with a guarantee, but i know at this stage (we're on a rep building tour with a bunch of local venues) that our name can't be trusted to bring people through the door yet. why don't more venues require presales when all the successful ones do? is it that hard to figure out why its a good idea from every angle? /rant. p.s. i know what its like being a small local act and having trouble selling presale, but i still did it!