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The great Third Eye Blind conspiracy

#22
skycruiser said:
"also they seem to have dropped any reference to capo at the 2nd fret"

Is this the missing bit of info that fixes the problem? Is everything OK played at Capo 2? I see this a lot online. They show the chord "shapes" but forget to mention the capo position - probably due to copy-pasting from another site.
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In this case based on all the chord charts posted , not exactly , they left chords out , but at least it gets the D and G to E and A which is the correct key
 
#25
Yep - TABS are wrong. A lot of them have harvested from a bad transcription and the capo note got dropped. So you get the same 'wrong' everywhere. Some if it is just laughable.

I was fleshing out a song a couple of weeks ago and it was "Capo on 6", then it was all "campfire" chords (G, C, D Em). What a royal pain to mentally shift all that on the fly.

Chordify can tend to be more correct. I would rather just see the transcription than beinge forced to watch it scroll by, but it can help. Invalid Link Removed

"Third Eye Blind" wins my best band name ever prize!
 
#26
I went back and looked at those pages again. Half do mention capo at second fret, half do not; presumably those that don't have copy/pasted the lyrics and chords from other sites but omitted that extra level of detail.

However IMO (and I stress that I'm very much a part time guitarist) using the capo then listing D and G as the chords encourages the use of open chords (a couple of the sites show the open chord shapes) whereas it sounds like the song is played (and would arguably be much easier to play) using barre chords, in which case the capo seems pretty much redundant.

And it still doesn't explain the missing B (or capo'ed A).

Anyway, I thought I'd leave you with this guy, who makes sense.
 
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From ultimate-guitar, the above has what you are mentioning. And it's a higher rated chord chart. If I don't want to use a capo or this is for bass, scroll down to the bottom and click Transpose +1 twice and Bob's your uncle.
 
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#29
whero said:
So... (1) What the actual heck? and (2) Anybody have any recommendations for sites with reliable transcriptions?
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Chord sites are just the "chordpro" version of lyrics sites: one person uploads the chordpro version of the chart to one site, within a few seconds all the other sites have scraped that and added it to their site. It's usually wrong, and they all have the same wrong chords (and lyrics sometimes).

Some go to great lengths to hide the fact that it's just chordpro (which is awesome BTW). Some go farther and format it on the server side to make it harder to steal. But they all do the same thing.

Obviously some idiot uploaded the wrong chords to one site. Then all the bots cloned it to all the other sites. It's just how the world works these days. This is why we can't have anything nice.
 
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hrodbert696 said:
+1 to @pmatz2 's comment - a lot of these sites just cut-and-paste each other's content. Someone likes to play it in D in their bedroom, shared that to the internet, and now the internet declares the song is in D.
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A lot of contributors to tab sites rip off each other, or AI generated "official" versions, as well. More than once, I've seen the same tab simply rewritten, including the "official" version rewritten as contribution #5.

Online tabs are great for quickly getting the neighborhood, but are rarely correct on details.
 
#34
If you don't mind spending $3 to $5 a pop, you can legally download the officially published sheet music for a huge number of songs from SheetMusicPlus.com

The published score says this song is in F-major.
 
#37
whero said:
This is mostly just a rant. Please feel free to quit now...

So my main project is a covers band. We're all in our 50s and 60s and do mostly 60s, 70s and 80s stuff, which is pretty well received at the bars we play semi-regularly. Recently we were invited to play every other Saturday afternoon at a local outdoor venue over the summer. We went along a few weeks before our first day to check the place out, see what kind of people go there and what they might like, and as a result we've decided to add some more 90s/00s songs to the repertoire.

We spent some time at a rehearsal listening to a lot of stuff and made up a list of things we thought we could get together reasonably quickly, and do well. Our usual tactic is that everybody then goes away and learns their parts by themselves during the week, then we put it all together at the next rehearsal.

One of the songs that made the list was Third Eye Blind's "Never Let You Go".

When we got together, our rhythm guitarist said he was happy with what he had worked up (and it was good) but that he had started out by playing along with the song, and pretty quickly identified the main chords in the intro riff and verse as E, B and A. He then went looking for the chords online, to see whether there were any variations (e.g. is that an E, or actually an E5, or ...?).

The first thing he found is that there seem to be way more websites for tabs than chords these days. Perhaps so people can learn to play songs without actually having to learn to play the guitar? But then, as far as chords go, this is what he found:

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He did finally find what look like the correct chords, after about a dozen sites like the ones shown above, but I'm just not sure what's going on there. I've tried making D and G (or even two of the correct chords) fit into this song's intro and verse and just can't do it. Not even close.

So... (1) What the actual heck? and (2) Anybody have any recommendations for sites with reliable transcriptions?
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I've found this same thing with Lyrics sites, they seem to copy and paste from each other.
Sometimes they're blatantly wrong and I'll see 6 in a row with the same wrong lyrics before I see one that sounds right.
 
#39
gln1955 said:
So, spend money on sheet music that is not in the recorded key?
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Only a problem if the minimal skill set required to transpose to a different key is beyond the ability of the person reading the score. Transposing used to be considered a basic skill for a musician. Is that no longer a thing?

There's nothing sacred about the key someone recorded a song in. It's just the key that particular performer was most comfortable using for that number.
 
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