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The Green Machine - BAD Dually

#105
BurningSkies said:
Don't tell anyone, but I found out a secret. You can have good bass gear and also own nice other stuff. ;)
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Reported to Mods for being the most ridiculous opinion ever offered in the history of TB.

If you have ANY disposible income left over, your bass gear is not nice enough. If you even have enough money to afford cheese powder for mac n cheese, you have failed miserably.

Someone get this guy out of here. Next thing you know, he is going to start telling people that they should purchase with their ears and totally ignore the coolest and hottest brand names. :hiding:

Now back to our regularly scheduled BAD smokin hot Green Machine.
 
#107
If you have ANY disposible income left over, your bass gear is not nice enough. If you even have enough money to afford cheese powder for mac n cheese, you have failed miserably.
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I realize this comment is tongue-in-cheek but it give rise in my mind to a thought I have often had - to wit: even at places like TB with lots of bass-o-holics, there is a perverse sense of what comprises "expensive". I look around at folks of even modest income who participate in other sidelines / recreational activities [bass fishing / deer hunting / golf / gold prospecting - metal detector hunting / motorcycle holidays / et cetera], and add up what they have tied up in their gear its strikes me that spending a few thousand bucks on a bass rig is small beer in comparison.

Not pushing the idea of owning a dozen booteek amps and axes or anything like that - but one could go stellar quality throughout - say an AB built fEARful cab, a pro grade amp, and hand-wired premium quality preamp like a Jule or a JGR Reiner and a really nice axe like maybe Zon Bass and get out of the deal for around maybe $5-6k ??? and you are literally set for life.

Compare this to other sideline / recreational activities and the costs over a few years of going first class on bass gear is cheap - even without factoring in the likelihood of actually get paid something for doing it.

With that perspective its pains me to see guys who are clearly past the noobie stage [am I really going to do this bass playing thing?] wasting years on consumer stuff that doesn't really get em what they want because they can't see their way clear to step up from having a couple of grand in their setup. I wish I had done it years ago.

So I guess I think folks ought to man up and pay for the rig they really want... oddly enough it usually costs less in the long run.

My $0.02
 
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#108
Foz said:
I realize this comment is tongue-in-cheek but it give rise in my mind to a thought I have often had - to wit: even at places like TB with lots of bass-o-holics, there is a perverse sense of what comprises "expensive". I look around at folks of even modest income who participate in other sidelines / recreational activities [bass fishing / deer hunting / golf / gold prospecting - metal detector hunting / motorcycle holidays / et cetera], and add up what they have tied up in their gear its strikes me that spending a few thousand bucks on a bass rig is small beer in comparison.

Not pushing the idea of owning a dozen booteek amps and axes or anything like that - but one could go stellar quality throughout - say an AB built fEARful cab, a pro grade amp, and hand-wired premium quality preamp like a Jule or a JGR Reiner and a really nice axe like maybe Zon Bass and get out of the deal for around maybe $5-6k ??? and you are literally set for life.

Compare this to other sideline / recreational activities and the costs over a few years of going first class on bass gear is cheap - even without factoring in the likelihood of actually get paid something for doing it.

With that perspective its pains me to see guys who are clearly past the noobie stage [am I really going to do this bass playing thing?] wasting years on consumer stuff that doesn't really get em what they want because they can't see their way clear to step up from having a couple of grand in their setup. I wish I had done it years ago.

So I guess I think folks ought to man up and pay for the rig they really want... oddly enough it usually costs less in the long run.

My $0.02
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We've (the infamous, yet beautiful Mrs. Skies and I) been fighting the war against 'cheap crap' in our lives lately. As we have a new place, we've gotten rid of a lot of 'cheap' furniture and other goods. We're slowly replacing them with nice things. Rather than spending a couple hundred on something that will be functional and passable for a few years, I'd rather own things we LIKE and plan on having them for MANY years. Its how I buy bass gear. I only have a couple basses now, but they're works of art. I only have a couple 'amps' but they're the best. Since taking that tack with bass gear I haven't had any regrets and I spend less in the long run.

Buy less. Buy better. :)
 
#110
Foz said:
I realize this comment is tongue-in-cheek but it give rise in my mind to a thought I have often had - to wit: even at places like TB with lots of bass-o-holics, there is a perverse sense of what comprises "expensive". I look around at folks of even modest income who participate in other sidelines / recreational activities [bass fishing / deer hunting / golf / gold prospecting - metal detector hunting / motorcycle holidays / et cetera], and add up what they have tied up in their gear its strikes me that spending a few thousand bucks on a bass rig is small beer in comparison.

Not pushing the idea of owning a dozen booteek amps and axes or anything like that - but one could go stellar quality throughout - say an AB built fEARful cab, a pro grade amp, and hand-wired premium quality preamp like a Jule or a JGR Reiner and a really nice axe like maybe Zon Bass and get out of the deal for around maybe $5-6k ??? and you are literally set for life.

Compare this to other sideline / recreational activities and the costs over a few years of going first class on bass gear is cheap - even without factoring in the likelihood of actually get paid something for doing it.

With that perspective its pains me to see guys who are clearly past the noobie stage [am I really going to do this bass playing thing?] wasting years on consumer stuff that doesn't really get em what they want because they can't see their way clear to step up from having a couple of grand in their setup. I wish I had done it years ago.

So I guess I think folks ought to man up and pay for the rig they really want... oddly enough it usually costs less in the long run.

My $0.02
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My wife's an Equestrian. Expensive hobby. Cost of the horse, room/board, saddles, lessons, events, shoes, supplements, blankets, her dressage and hunter garb.

I could have almost as many Foderas as Anthony Wellington and still come out with the cheaper 'hobby'

I rub it in every now and then and point out when I gig, I get paid. Best she gets is a ribbon and another vet bill
 
#111
Buy less. Buy better.
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Very well said.

Once I am done selling a few things I'll be down to one amp, one PA amp (that will double as a back-up) one really nice bass as my main player, one back-up bass, and two cabs. That's all I need and it will cover every situation I may find myself in.

I am in the same mindset with non-bass stuff as well. The purge is ongoing, but very liberating. There is a line of thinking called the 80/20 principle which states that 80% of the time we use 20% of our stuff. I ascribe to that.
 
#112
::::BASSIST:::: said:
Very well said.

Once I am done selling a few things I'll be down to one amp, one PA amp (that will double as a back-up) one really nice bass as my main player and two cabs. That's all I need and it will cover every situation I may find myself in.

I am in the same mindset with non-bass stuff as well. The purge is ongoing, but very liberating. There is a line of thinking called the 80/20 principle which states that 80% of the time we use 20% of our stuff. I ascribe to that.
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Yep. I sold 3 basses and only kept my Dingwalls and my first 'real' bass, my MIA Jazz. I also got rid of a bunch of cabs/amp stuff too.

When I moved, I donated crates full of books and got rid of every damn particle board bookcase I had, no having only two book cases, made of 'real' wood.

I'm no less happy than when I had those piles of stuff around. Beyond bragging rights on TB, having piles of gear around doesn't really do much but take up your space.

On that note, I've been playing fEARfuls for a few years now, and don't have any desire for any other cabs.
 
#113
I agree 100% with Foz, Skies and that guy up in Vancouver.

Once I bought a really good bass I was done looking at basses. That was three years ago. Two years ago, my New Year's resolution was to get my rig sorted once and for all. That was a wrap a couple of months later.

Before too long I'll be down to two basses, one rig and a DI. I could go down to one bass, but I kind of like keeping the four banger fretted around for site reading gospel music at church. The stuff that ended my search is exactly of the quality level foz is writing about.

Oh, there are many more expensive things one can do than buy into great bass gear. Airplanes, motorcycles, golf, mistresses, a travel jones, restoring tractors, hot rods, skiing and countless other activities.

It really is less expensive to just get the good stuff and get off the merry go round. When I stop and tally up how much money UPS made off my own trying to sound great on the cheap, it hurts.
 
#114
Foz said:
I realize this comment is tongue-in-cheek but it give rise in my mind to a thought I have often had - to wit: even at places like TB with lots of bass-o-holics, there is a perverse sense of what comprises "expensive". I look around at folks of even modest income who participate in other sidelines / recreational activities [bass fishing / deer hunting / golf / gold prospecting - metal detector hunting / motorcycle holidays / et cetera], and add up what they have tied up in their gear its strikes me that spending a few thousand bucks on a bass rig is small beer in comparison.

Not pushing the idea of owning a dozen booteek amps and axes or anything like that - but one could go stellar quality throughout - say an AB built fEARful cab, a pro grade amp, and hand-wired premium quality preamp like a Jule or a JGR Reiner and a really nice axe like maybe Zon Bass and get out of the deal for around maybe $5-6k ??? and you are literally set for life.

Compare this to other sideline / recreational activities and the costs over a few years of going first class on bass gear is cheap - even without factoring in the likelihood of actually get paid something for doing it.

With that perspective its pains me to see guys who are clearly past the noobie stage [am I really going to do this bass playing thing?] wasting years on consumer stuff that doesn't really get em what they want because they can't see their way clear to step up from having a couple of grand in their setup. I wish I had done it years ago.

So I guess I think folks ought to man up and pay for the rig they really want... oddly enough it usually costs less in the long run.

My $0.02
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Perfectly put, Foz! I have a lot of buddies who claim they want to 'go pro' in music...they play the cheapest Chinese uprights, whatever amp/cab is on sale at GC, and spend WAY to much money on a hundred sets of strings and pickups trying to get a good sound. It's easier to justify spending a few thousand in $50 increments.

Meanwhile they have 3 motorcycles, bass boats, etc :)
 
#116
::::BASSIST:::: said:
Very well said.

Once I am done selling a few things I'll be down to one amp, one PA amp (that will double as a back-up) one really nice bass as my main player, one back-up bass, and two cabs. That's all I need and it will cover every situation I may find myself in.

I am in the same mindset with non-bass stuff as well. The purge is ongoing, but very liberating. There is a line of thinking called the 80/20 principle which states that 80% of the time we use 20% of our stuff. I ascribe to that.
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In spite of playing vanilla basses which I happen to love, I too find myself selling off and upgrading. Sold two basses in the last 24 hours and I think I have another one sold this evening. Kicking a bunch of cabs to the curb as well.

The wife is dancing.
 

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