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The Ibanez Club (Part 5)

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From what I understand the RB 800 was the first sound gear bass made in 1987 but Hamer threatened to sir over the Headstock shape and the SR800 came out the next year or something like that.

The RB800 and the SR1000 first appeared in the 1987 catalog. The RB800 wasn't the first Soundgear; rather, it was the last Roadstar (though they still made the RB850 that year, too). I've never heard of a lawsuit over that headstock, but it there was, I bet it was Tune that was doing the suing.
 
The RB800 and the SR1000 first appeared in the 1987 catalog. The RB800 wasn't the first Soundgear; rather, it was the last Roadstar (though they still made the RB850 that year, too). I've never heard of a lawsuit over that headstock, but it there was, I bet it was Tune that was doing the suing.

That makes way more sense. The RB800 is my favorite Ibby bass followed closely by the RB850. The SR800 I guess are just the RB800 with a different head stock.... maybe that was the point someone was making. You are absolutely correct....Tune basses have the same head stock.
 
I read where someone else who seemed pretty confident said that the RB800 was identical except for the headstock to the SR800 that came out the following year. There were also different initials following the SR800 but I can't recall them now.
 
I read where someone else who seemed pretty confident said that the RB800 was identical except for the headstock to the SR800 that came out the following year. There were also different initials following the SR800 but I can't recall them now.

They are the same; just the headstock and names are different. The old Soundgears had an "LE" suffix (Limited Edition), mine had "LEL" (Limited Edition Lefty)
 
Trying to decide what would be the 'best' outcome here, so I'll invite others to give their opinions. Including 'collectors' and those who know how to place value on these things.

I'm lucky enough to have two 80's Musicians, both originally had the active pre (one still does). One is an '83, the other an '84, so both have the P/J setup with the taller front cavity and narrower rear.

One is in Polar White, has had the original pre/pups ripped out, and replaced with Bart soapbars (the rear one looks like it sits on top of the cavity - at least they didn't route it out!) Nice tone, but not the same. It has at least an 8/10 body (yellowing notwithstanding).

The 'new' one is a fretless (MC940), in the DS, and it has a working pre. Doesn't quite sound the same as what I 'remember' back in the day - but it all works, has the circuit board, the 'candy tin' shielding cover, etc. Thing is, there's much more wear on the body / fretboard than the PW has. The seller described it as '8/10' - if it is, the body of the PW should be a '9/10'. I'd call the fretless 7/10, but I'm no expert.

Before I saw the 940 in person, my plan was to get it and find a good home for the PW. But now I'm kind of torn between a few different options. I'm also lucky enough to have some other nice basses to play, so no option here would result in a 'daily player' - most likely a case queen that wouldn't see much use - especially because I can't replace anything that breaks with the pups/pre.

- Sell the PW as-is and keep the fretless as-is.
With this option, I've got someone wanting to trade me a nice Demeter rack pre for the PW. I've always been an integrated amp guy to this point, but have been thinking about outboard pre/power setups lately)
I know the fretless is even *more* rare, no matter that it's in not as nice shape (the bridge needs some adjustment and doesn't quite look right (bent?) ; not sure if there are other issues with it); there is wear on the ebony fretboard (not eaten away, mainly just loss of color from the strings, especially in the 'A' area, and that string was raised when it came to me).
I got the fretless with original HSC, and case candy(!), so this might lean a collector to keep this one, mojo be d@mned.

- Keep both, as-is.
Easiest option, but I'm obviously wanting to try to 'improve' the situation here, so I don't think I'm going to stand pat, or wait for these to rise in value (I really don't care about that, to be honest - it's a sentimental thing with me).

- Keep both, and swap the 940's electronics /pups into the 924's.
Problem here is potential breakage of the electronics, and my preference, if I keep one, is to have the dark stain. But I might be waiting a long time to find a body as nice as the PW has.

- Take the 940 fretless and have it refinished.
Parts and cost are a factor here, and it's probably better if I don't refinish it, from a resale (?) perspective.

- Sell both and walk away from the idea of having a nice, all-original Musician in DS.
Problem here is that the Musician is the first bass I ever got to put my hands on as a teenager (it was my bandmate's), and I had it for about 6 months and fell in love with it.


- Some other option I haven't thought of (like get rid of both and find another with the 'total package' I want.) These might not show up locally too often (that's how I go the white one - from CL), but they do occasionally show up on TB (how I got the fretless).


Thoughts? I can take pics for those interested.
 
Does anyone know if there's a difference between the SR800LE and the SR800 that came after?

I'm assuming that they stopped being made in Japan at some point but is there more to it than that?

What year did changes occur?

I really like the RB800 and SR800LE that came after it, but you don't see those very often. On the other hand SR800s, even ones MIJ are often available. Just wondering if there were other changes (that would affect the sound).
 
With fret hand problems and back problems, lighter basses and smaller necks have given me some relief from both issues. The Road Worn jazz I have is a big help as it is lighter than most and the neck is a good fit for my hand BUT I have enjoyed the SR490(that i got on the cheap) so much that I sprung for a SR1400E. Received it in tune with the intonation almost spot on. Action was really low and if I had a bit of a lighter touch I would have left it there.

Sounds great, looks fantastic. Really looking forward to playing this at practice. :bassist::D

Sorry for the crappy pic
 

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With fret hand problems and back problems, lighter basses and smaller necks have given me some relief from both issues. The Road Worn jazz I have is a big help as it is lighter than most and the neck is a good fit for my hand BUT I have enjoyed the SR490(that i got on the cheap) so much that I sprung for a SR1400E. Received it in tune with the intonation almost spot on. Action was really low and if I had a bit of a lighter touch I would have left it there.

Sounds great, looks fantastic. Really looking forward to playing this at practice. :bassist::D

Sorry for the crappy pic
The same reason I ended up with one of the premiums. I bought one of the anniversary SR5XX last year.
 

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Does anyone know if there's a difference between the SR800LE and the SR800 that came after?

I'm assuming that they stopped being made in Japan at some point but is there more to it than that?

What year did changes occur?

I really like the RB800 and SR800LE that came after it, but you don't see those very often. On the other hand SR800s, even ones MIJ are often available. Just wondering if there were other changes (that would affect the sound).

The 800LE's were made from '87-'90, and had Lo-Z pickups, 2 band eq, and the Omni-Adjust bridge (Gotoh 206). '91 and '92 800's had the same pickups and electronics, but the bridge changed, mostly to the B-IV (that required the stupid route into the body), though I've seen a few '91's with the B-20, which Ibanez still uses. By '93, 800's changed to AFR pickups and a 3 band eq. The years mentioned are approximate.:)
 
The 800LE's were made from '87-'90, and had Lo-Z pickups, 2 band eq, and the Omni-Adjust bridge (Gotoh 206). '91 and '92 800's had the same pickups and electronics, but the bridge changed, mostly to the B-IV (that required the stupid route into the body), though I've seen a few '91's with the B-20, which Ibanez still uses. By '93, 800's changed to AFR pickups and a 3 band eq. The years mentioned are approximate.:)

Great info! Thanks!
 
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