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The LOOPING Club

#61
I have had a JamMan Stereo for a while now and have never really used it. My purpose is to primarily create some loops for solo play or that I can use to accompany my own guitar playing and practicing.
 
#62
I actually just did what I thought I'd never do: I sold my RC-300 and bought a midi controller so I can start looping with Abelton and controlling with the midi foot controller. I don't know if I'm going to like it, but I am excited to give it a shot. If anyone does this feel free to give some advice as I never have.

I also picked up some used recording gear and a midi keyboard/synth so hopefully I'll get some really sweet loops going with it recording automatically.
 
#66
Great idea for a club. I'm slowly building a pedalboard with the hopes of getting a major loop project going. Right now, I only have a TC HOF, a Ditto, and an Eventide H9, but I plan on getting a Flashback X4 and then I have to figure out what serious looper I want to get. What I'm really interested in learning from you folks is the various ways you route things... when I think of what I want to try to do, I think it's going to involve 2 or 3 different effects chains, but I am truly baffled as to how to do the routing, and what equipment to use.
 
#68
Subbing into the club.

ive had a few Boss RC's in the past but stringing / switching sections during play included spaces between.

Now I hear the current RC-3 is good.
Ordered one to see if I like it.

Thought about Digitech Jamman Solo XT but decided to go back to Boss. We'll see.

I mainly want to:

1. Play and loop for improv practice
2. Get ideas for composing
3. Go thru arrangements for practicing parts.

Are there other external pedals that work the same for the RC-3 other than
the FS-6? Sort of feels high priced for a switch to me.

Thanks!!
 
#69
I JUST picked up a TC Ditto x2 looper the other day and have only gotten the chance to play with it once. I really dig it. The ability to upload a loop to the computer was nifty and the ability to load a loop is cool too, albeit, you can only do one loop at a time... The reverse feature functions very well, which is sometimes and issue.

I'd def join the club :cool:
 
#71
BooshBass said:
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Read your post and was keeping up ok until all the midi assigning stuff since im not too familar with all things midi as well. I know doing it with a controller in hand rather then just visualizing your instructions would be easy though, very nice tutorial. Nice pic of the set up and nice use of space. I was imagining a ridiculous setup but this can easily be set in any corner of a room.

Now if its not too much to ask (at this point come on now its not!:thumbsup:) lets see this set up in action. Same angle as the picture, just set up a video camera and do your thing man.
 
#72
Syxz_ML said:
Read your post and was keeping up ok until all the midi assigning stuff since im not too familar with all things midi as well. I know doing it with a controller in hand rather then just visualizing your instructions would be easy though, very nice tutorial. Nice pic of the set up and nice use of space. I was imagining a ridiculous setup but this can easily be set in any corner of a room.

Now if its not too much to ask (at this point come on now its not!:thumbsup:) lets see this set up in action. Same angle as the picture, just set up a video camera and do your thing man.
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That is the plan. Will do asap.

MIDI is a huge pain in the ass to set up. It seems like any time you think you did it some other problem comes up. But once you finally actually get it set up properly and know how to work ableton with it it's seriously awesome - way better than any hardware looper pedal. I just wanted to make that post so others won't have to spend so much time looking at 50 small posts of every little aspect of the setup and put them together. I'm sure I'm missing something but that post should get people at least 95% of the way.

My goal with this which I finally achieved is just to flip on two power bars, flip the computer open, and be readytracks loop like crazy, have a nice sounding mix live given the four speakers AND record isolated tracks.

The recording part is key. Recording is notoriously a pain in the ass for me as well and I'm sure others because I never wanted to mess around with some annoying program and just wanted to play. I was always deterred from recording because for me it makes something that's supposed to be fun tedious and annoying.

With this setup you just start ableton turn your gear on and start looping. Everything gets recorded separately as you play loops without having to dick around with the program.

Now I just have to figure out how to produce the tracks to sound good on a completed recording. That's a whole other story tho...
 
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#73
I'm just going to weigh in on the MIDI, it's really a lot less complicated than it first seems depending on your application. Understanding channel, PC messages, and CC messages is really simple, IMO. MIDI clock is also pretty simple. Now, there is stuff beyond that which gets complicated, but you can do a TON with what I've outlined.
 
#74
Adamixoye said:
I'm just going to weigh in on the MIDI, it's really a lot less complicated than it first seems depending on your application. Understanding channel, PC messages, and CC messages is really simple, IMO. MIDI clock is also pretty simple. Now, there is stuff beyond that which gets complicated, but you can do a TON with what I've outlined.
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If you know and can explain the actual formula to determine the codes for Control Change and Note messages it would be greatly appreciated.
 
#75
BooshBass said:
If you know and can explain the actual formula to determine the codes for Control Change and Note messages it would be greatly appreciated.
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I was commenting more on MIDI in general than with regards to Ableton specifically---sorry, maybe I should have read the post better.
 
#76
Adamixoye said:
I was commenting more on MIDI in general than with regards to Ableton specifically---sorry, maybe I should have read the post better.
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No worries. Apparently all a midi message is is a code that ur controller sends to the computer. For example, the code for Channel 1 Control Change 9 with a 127 value is B0 0A 7F, which is one listed in my posting on Abletons forum. You can assign certain codes to certain functions on Ableton which is how Ableton works with a midi controller. The only reason I know this is because my foot controller only sends codes for program changes which don't work in Ableton so I use Bomes Midi Translator to convert the codes from my controller into CCs before their sent to Ableton.

If you look at the list they clearly follow a pattern. It would be nice to know the formula for determining the codes for whatever messages you want to send. I saw one post that tried to explain but I still couldn't figure it out.
 
#79
Syxz_ML said:
Cool stuff. You can really tell the convenience of having everything readily available by the quickness of each loop being added.

Not gonna lie was hoping for a vid of it taking place live ;) but regardless some good stuff man.
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The loops are so quick because its edited down. It usually takes me a minute to get it going right. I'll post a video at some point its just take a little longer.
 
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#80
A question for the loopers ... I've been dabbling with the Ditto, but feel it would be nice to not overdub but rather have parallell loops that you can turn on and off and also re-record if something goes wrong. On my iPad I have the Loopy app - is there something close to that in pedal form that gives you at least a few tracks?
 

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