Thanks! Do you make the platforms yourself? I've seen similar ones for sale.
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the Official Ampeg Club Part 5
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Was putting some of my stuff away after a rehearsal yesterday...and grabbed a pic of where I've landed on the amp front. Subjective--for sure...but I realized I'm one lucky bugger.
Gig on average 2-3 times a month with various projects, some admittedly only call for a DI (thanks Tech 21 or the 50T) straight to FOH, but when I need to bring a rig...there's no shortage of inspiring options!!
One rig brings heft and weight, the other is pure tone sweetness. Both sound freakin' amazing! Thanks Ampeg!
Gig on average 2-3 times a month with various projects, some admittedly only call for a DI (thanks Tech 21 or the 50T) straight to FOH, but when I need to bring a rig...there's no shortage of inspiring options!!
One rig brings heft and weight, the other is pure tone sweetness. Both sound freakin' amazing! Thanks Ampeg!
It's the 115he. Just got it about a month ago. It likes the 50T a lot!!!
I see we're both fans of the 112av's.... Wish my two grills matched though...one's an older unit the second one is a brand new one I splurged for about 6 months ago.
I'm in the same situation with my 112av cabinet grills lol. Both were new old stock items on reverb, got about a year ago, one was obviously newer old stock than the other. One is Yamaha, the other pre-Yamaha, I think all the Yamaha ones have the more consistently blue toned grills. I recently ordered a new grill from Fliptops and hope it will match the Yamaha grill. Should be here any day now…
I recently purchased an RB-112, and the posts in this group were extremely helpful in making that decision and getting a lot of useful information beforehand--so thanks to all who have contributed to the conversations. For many years I schlepped around an SVT and two 8x10 cabs, back in the day, and I think Ampeg/Yamaha has done a great job of recreating the classic warm Ampeg sound.
My current situation is that my own band uses IEMs--no speaker cabs onstage whatsoever--so I've just been using my Demeter 400D as a preamp. I also have a RevSound 1x12 cab for the Demeter, which I've hardly used, because IEMs. I've been contemplating selling the Demeter and RevSound, because I don't really need them anymore.
Recently I began participating in some low volume jams where I'm the sole bassist among several guitarists (and a drummer), and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and lightweight combo amp to bring to those. Didn't want to bring my fancy Demeter/RevSound rig. Enter the Ampeg RB-112. It has worked out amazingly well and I've gotten several compliments from the other musicians on the sound I get from it.
Btw, one of the things I learned from this group was to tighten up the screws on the RB-112. Sure enough, pretty much every screw on the thing was not fully tightened and took at least a quarter turn to snug in.
As a result of these jam gatherings I've been participating in with the RB-112, I was asked to be available as a sub for a blues-rock band fronted by one of the guitarists at the jams. Sounds like fun, so I agreed. I think I'll stick with the Ampeg sound for these gigs if/when they occur, but I'm not sure if the single RB-112 will cut it volume-wise (my philosophy, power-wise, is "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it"). I like the idea of slaving two RB-112's together in a stack. Am I correct in understanding that this is just a matter of running an instrument cable from the effects loop send of the "master" amp to the effects loop return of the "slave" amp? Would I then set the volume and tone knobs on the "slave" off, or would I want to match the knob settings of the "master" on the "slave"? Or do I only need to set the volume on the "slave" and everything else (tone & SGT settings) comes from the "master"? Alternatively, if I were to use an RB-115 instead of an RB-112 for the "slave" could I EQ it independently of the RB-112 "master"?
Or is there another approach to this master/slave configuration that I might want to consider?
TIA
My current situation is that my own band uses IEMs--no speaker cabs onstage whatsoever--so I've just been using my Demeter 400D as a preamp. I also have a RevSound 1x12 cab for the Demeter, which I've hardly used, because IEMs. I've been contemplating selling the Demeter and RevSound, because I don't really need them anymore.
Recently I began participating in some low volume jams where I'm the sole bassist among several guitarists (and a drummer), and I wanted a relatively inexpensive and lightweight combo amp to bring to those. Didn't want to bring my fancy Demeter/RevSound rig. Enter the Ampeg RB-112. It has worked out amazingly well and I've gotten several compliments from the other musicians on the sound I get from it.
Btw, one of the things I learned from this group was to tighten up the screws on the RB-112. Sure enough, pretty much every screw on the thing was not fully tightened and took at least a quarter turn to snug in.
As a result of these jam gatherings I've been participating in with the RB-112, I was asked to be available as a sub for a blues-rock band fronted by one of the guitarists at the jams. Sounds like fun, so I agreed. I think I'll stick with the Ampeg sound for these gigs if/when they occur, but I'm not sure if the single RB-112 will cut it volume-wise (my philosophy, power-wise, is "better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it"). I like the idea of slaving two RB-112's together in a stack. Am I correct in understanding that this is just a matter of running an instrument cable from the effects loop send of the "master" amp to the effects loop return of the "slave" amp? Would I then set the volume and tone knobs on the "slave" off, or would I want to match the knob settings of the "master" on the "slave"? Or do I only need to set the volume on the "slave" and everything else (tone & SGT settings) comes from the "master"? Alternatively, if I were to use an RB-115 instead of an RB-112 for the "slave" could I EQ it independently of the RB-112 "master"?
Or is there another approach to this master/slave configuration that I might want to consider?
TIA
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I may be misunderstanding things, but wouldn't patching the effect out from the "master" to the effects in on the "slave" just connect the master's preamp to the slave's power amp, bypassing the first amp's power section, so that you still only have sound from one amp? I'm sure that on my old SVT-III, plugging into the effect send jack cut the signal to the power amp until it was patched back in after passing through the outboard gear.
It depend on how the jacks are wired. A series effects loop requires switching on one jack. The switch may be on the send, the return, or both.
If the master amp has the switching on the return, you can run the send to the return of another amp and both amps will produce sound. If the master amp has the switching on the send, inserting a plug will kill the sound to the preamp.
In some circumstances, you can take the signal off the return
. For example I have a couple of Ashdown LB30s. The effects loop has the switching contact on the Send. However I can run the Return from the first amp to the Send of the second amp and both amps produce sound.My 69 SVT has Pre out and Power amp in jacks. On later SVTs the Power Amp In jack is switching, so it behaves like a series loop. On the 69 there is no switching, so the jacks can be used to drive a slave amp, but they cannot be used as a loop.
This is how the 69s jacks are wired (no switching).
Here is how later SVTs are wired.
As you see the PA in jack (J2) is switching.
I've sent an inquiry over to Ampeg support to see if they can provide a definitive answer. If they respond, I'll post it here.
I received an impressively quick response from Ampeg support.
Here was my question: "I recently purchased an Ampeg RB-112 bass amp, and it is working great. I prefer the sound of 12" speakers over 10" or 15". In relatively low volume situations the RB-112 is fantastic. However, I'm concerned that the RB-112 is a little underpowered for louder band situations. It's unfortunate that a jack for an external speaker (and a bit more wattage) wasn't provided on it. But, I've heard that it's possible to connect two RB-112's together by connecting an instrument cable from the effects loop send of one RB-112 (making it the "master" amp) to the effects loop return of another RB-112 (making it the "slave" amp). Supposedly doing so means each cabinet is powered by its own built-in amp, but the tone settings (and, I assume, SGT settings) are controlled by the "master". Is this correct? Or does the "slave" RB-112 merely become a passive extension cabinet and it's power amp is bypassed? Either way, can this be done and is it advised?"
Here is their response: "You've got it exactly right. The preamp signal of Amp A will feed the Power section of Amp B.
If you check out the block diagram in the Owner's Manual, you can see the signal path flow:
https://ampeg.com/support/manuals/rocket-bass-112"
I'm not conversant with diagrams of this nature, but I can see that both the effects loop send and return comes before the power amp, so it appears that this "master/slave" approach is doable. That's good to know.
Here was my question: "I recently purchased an Ampeg RB-112 bass amp, and it is working great. I prefer the sound of 12" speakers over 10" or 15". In relatively low volume situations the RB-112 is fantastic. However, I'm concerned that the RB-112 is a little underpowered for louder band situations. It's unfortunate that a jack for an external speaker (and a bit more wattage) wasn't provided on it. But, I've heard that it's possible to connect two RB-112's together by connecting an instrument cable from the effects loop send of one RB-112 (making it the "master" amp) to the effects loop return of another RB-112 (making it the "slave" amp). Supposedly doing so means each cabinet is powered by its own built-in amp, but the tone settings (and, I assume, SGT settings) are controlled by the "master". Is this correct? Or does the "slave" RB-112 merely become a passive extension cabinet and it's power amp is bypassed? Either way, can this be done and is it advised?"
Here is their response: "You've got it exactly right. The preamp signal of Amp A will feed the Power section of Amp B.
If you check out the block diagram in the Owner's Manual, you can see the signal path flow:
https://ampeg.com/support/manuals/rocket-bass-112"
I'm not conversant with diagrams of this nature, but I can see that both the effects loop send and return comes before the power amp, so it appears that this "master/slave" approach is doable. That's good to know.
It does look like the cutoff switch is on the return jack, rather than the send jack, so it looks (to my untrained eye, and per Wasnex's detailed post) that your plan should work.
Man there are some beautiful rigs here!
I'm a recent convert to bass and I fell in love with my SGT-DI so much that I bought the Venture V7 and the VB112 and VB115 to match....BONUS that they are feather light...my back thanks them. (The photo is of the V3, I traded it in for the V7 after it was taken)
I've asked several times if this amp was too much for these cabs either singly or together and I JUST noticed this tag on my 112:
"PERFECT MATCH:
V3, V7, V12 amplifier head.
I'm a recent convert to bass and I fell in love with my SGT-DI so much that I bought the Venture V7 and the VB112 and VB115 to match....BONUS that they are feather light...my back thanks them. (The photo is of the V3, I traded it in for the V7 after it was taken)
I've asked several times if this amp was too much for these cabs either singly or together and I JUST noticed this tag on my 112:
"PERFECT MATCH:
V3, V7, V12 amplifier head.
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Got my first Ampeg after playing off and on since the late 80s(not sure why it took me so long). Read lots of good reviews of the B100R so I decided to give one a try. Really great sounding amp!
I use two 810 rigs (in different locations)…just noticed one 810 appears to have the cloth side reversed (less sparkle)… I've taken a look at both sides of the Heritage cloth—one side definitely has more "sparkle" than the other (also made a custom grill for my V4B)…
Nice amp.
I liked the first B100R I bought so much, that when another one came along I bought it as well. One is made in USA, and one is made in China. No difference in sound.
The only bad thing about the B100R is that they weigh 1.25 Peavey TNT-115. (One Peavey TNT-115 is a unit of measure equal to one half crap-ton).
(I know because I own one).
Edited to add: I did the same thing when I bought my '67 SB12. I found another one a little while later that was very nice and a better deal than the first one. Now I have two SB12s.
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Ok...first POST GIG report and question!
We played, I had the venture V7 head at 2pm on the gain and 2:30 or 3:00 on the master and used the SVT switch but little fuzz for a little added volume to be heard clearly in the band mix...not sure how advisable that is...it seemed like it was working hard to get that amount of volume to the crowd (about 150 folks) it was outdoors...under a stage over hang but the audience just had bench/tables and umbrellas.
I took the VB-115 as the cab (250w)
I have also a VB-112 at home.
I THINK I could use a second cab....more headroom for that volume...should I just also hook up the VB-112 OR get a second cab with a larger or more speakers (VB-115 or VB-212)?
I'm just looking to play at that volume but to be able to turn down and not push the head that hard for that sound volume...
Please advise...I"m still confused about volume vs speakers vs watts...
PS: Nothing was boiling hot after the 3 hour gig and the speaker box seemed to be ok no issues.
We played, I had the venture V7 head at 2pm on the gain and 2:30 or 3:00 on the master and used the SVT switch but little fuzz for a little added volume to be heard clearly in the band mix...not sure how advisable that is...it seemed like it was working hard to get that amount of volume to the crowd (about 150 folks) it was outdoors...under a stage over hang but the audience just had bench/tables and umbrellas.
I took the VB-115 as the cab (250w)
I have also a VB-112 at home.
I THINK I could use a second cab....more headroom for that volume...should I just also hook up the VB-112 OR get a second cab with a larger or more speakers (VB-115 or VB-212)?
I'm just looking to play at that volume but to be able to turn down and not push the head that hard for that sound volume...
Please advise...I"m still confused about volume vs speakers vs watts...
PS: Nothing was boiling hot after the 3 hour gig and the speaker box seemed to be ok no issues.
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The amp was not hot after use bc it is made to operate as you did. Your gain and master settings are appropriate and not extreme for how the amp is designed. I'm at similar settings with a pair of SVT 112 cabs and the Venture V7. Which Venture amp are you using? I think there's great reason to enjoy using a second cab for moving more air, bigger sound and what not, but just to run the amp gain and master settings lower seems like a solution to a non existent problem. Imho.
I have the V7.
Using just one cabinet…doesn't that only use half the amount of watts the amp is rated at because it's an eight ohm cab?
You said you were using two 1x12 cabinets, that's what I'm asking is the ohms difference with one cab or two cabs, make the volume difference I'm seeking?
I guess my question is; i'd like to run it lower or even the same, and be louder and not push the speaker as much, would it make sense to get a matching VB-115 or do use the VB-112 I that have or one of the other cab options?
Weight is not an issue, these are those super light cabs.
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