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The Official Bass Photography Technique Thread

s_wood

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As a serious amateur photographer and a serious serial bass flipper I’ve often struggled with the proper ways of lighting a photo to show off the grain of the wood while dealing with reflections. I also struggle with white balance issues... I’ve used the various preset values in my Canon 5D IV, custom white balance settings with a gray card, an Expodisc... and it’s never quite right.

And then there’s the esthetic issue of finding the balance point between making the bass look its best and displaying it honestly, as it actually looks without the staged lighting!

There are lots of great photographers and photographs on Talkbass. Here’s a thread where you can share your tips and how-to’s with the rest of us! Of course, examples are always welcome but this thread is about the process that produced the results!
 
I shoot a single image - what you see in every photo presented for catalogs is authentic.

I did ONE photo of a WCR NS-4 in layers to eliminate the reflections of the studio lights for Stuart to see the wood.

The key to these shots is light and exposure.

I shoot them in a completely controlled environment. A black box room (a room with black a floor and ceiling and black walls). The only lights that are used are the ones I choose. No other light sources are allowed.
This helps control the way light plays off the instrument's surface.

Light has what we refer to as an "Incidence of angle" and a "critical angle". The key to shooting these guitars in particular is to put enough light on the guitar that you expose the wood at an angle (with enough light to capture the details - AKA Critical) while minimizing the size of the reflection caused by the light (AKA - incidence). With instruments like the NS - there's nearly zero flat surfaces - so the angle of incidence varies across the length of the instrument. It makes for honestly the most difficult shooting conditions.

In the photo of The Blue Dream that was in question - which ironically is how I found this post (a client was searching for examples of my work and told me there was a whole discussion about my methods and sent me the link) - you see the slight white reflection from the studio lights on the horns and body - this photo is real.

If you see a photo with a guitar exposed with zero light reflections - it has most likely been doctored.

I'm attaching before and after shots of that WCR in question (NS-4 #713).

What I did for the WCR photo was shoot multiple photos with the camera and guitar fixed in the same location, then I moved the lights so that in each photo the reflection was in a different place. I then created a composite image in Photoshop where each layer I removed the reflection. Then when flattened you had a perfect representation of the guitar's grain without any reflection.

After looking at it Stuart and I both felt the image was somewhat weird looking. Without that reflection to show the curve of the instrument it somehow looked odd and flat - it looked boring to me. That light reflection adds depth to the image.

The Black Pearl was sold to a private party and in regards to a bass that looks just like it (similar wings, etc...) There's only one "The Black Pearl" and the headstock clearly says "The Black Pearl" across the top on the back. The serial number is 739, dated 6/6/11 - If the wood in the wings looks identical it's purely coincidence. Any gloss black maple necked Spector without "The Black Pearl" written on the back of the headstock is simply another bass.

The photo of The Blue Dream in question is 100% real. In post (Photoshop) I simply play with levels and contrast. It makes the variations pop - but anyone who ever saw this guitar in person would tell you that it's one of the most striking finishes Jimmy Eppard ever created.

I'm attaching the RAW unedited version of that photo next to the final version. And a cell phone photo of the Blue Dream in a rack next to some other guitars - to show you how vibrant that guitar really is. I did NOTHING to the cell photo. It's 100% unedited.

I see the main trick I did use for The Blue Dream photo - I added a little blue to the grey/black of the background. This does make the color pop. But it in no way changes the contrast between the wood grain and the stain of the bass.

Thanks for this discussion. I have spent years perfecting my studio shoots for musical instruments and appreciate a healthy discussion of techniques. I'm currently shooting a private collection of amazing vintage guitars and antique classical instruments - which is fun. Playing with 1950's Les Pauls and 1960's Fenders is a lot of fun.

Best regards everyone!

JP

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Without a totally controllable location (such as the above mentioned studio) reflection will be difficult to minimize/eliminate.

Regarding color, a calibrated monitor is the most important part of the whole thing. I use an Eizo EV2436W that has excellent calibration controls within it. I always work with RAW files from my 6D so do my best to optimize the color balance, but many times I have to average things out if I am using mixed light sources (usually, I prefer natural and/or ambient light at the location).

Another thing, never use on-camera flash; they just cause more issues in the long run, for the most part.
 
I always take pictures outside, in the sun.

My dad is an artist and has made all kind of artificial light boxes to paint things like fruit and he had a bunch of difficulty, the lights need to be correct spectrum, they need to be pre-heated, and even then there are still variables that can result in a bad overall representation of the image. It sounds silly but if you are good enough you can end up with a painting that looks like it was lit by lamps in a garage. Trying to replicate a single light source (the sun) that our eyes have evolved for millions of years to know as correct is very hard.

If you are good at photoshop you can correct a lot of nasty variables. Every really nice picture you see of a sports car likely had the reflections worked on, removing everything from the guy squatting to take the picture, to the people holding the diffusers.

The picture of of that bass with the reflections looks great, removing reflections without just using a polarized lens always looks a bit unusual, the bass looks like it has a satin finish after you remove the glare completely.
 
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As a serious amateur photographer and a serious serial bass flipper I’ve often struggled with the proper ways of lighting a photo to show off the grain of the wood while dealing with reflections. I also struggle with white balance issues... I’ve used the various preset values in my Canon 5D IV, custom white balance settings with a gray card, an Expodisc... and it’s never quite right.

And then there’s the esthetic issue of finding the balance point between making the bass look its best and displaying it honestly, as it actually looks without the staged lighting!

There are lots of great photographers and photographs on Talkbass. Here’s a thread where you can share your tips and how-to’s with the rest of us! Of course, examples are always welcome but this thread is about the process that produced the results!
@BassHappy has some awesome bass photography. I think he'd be a great resource for this subject.
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... white sheet can do a good job as a backdrop...

for me i would use it as a reflector. most of my basses are black
Foam-core sheets are the way to go for inexpensive white reflectors, and they can be cut down to whatever size and shape you need. This was made in my old studio with a mid grey seamless and 4' x 4' foam-core. Hot lights were the lighting for this photograph (16" scoops and 6' and 8' fresnels).

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I'm trying to remember how we managed before the softbox was invented. What happened to all those umbrellas? :bored:

I hated using umbrellas but I had to at the start of my career as I couldn't afford softboxes. I use octaboxes now. Funny to still see some guys using them now, it just screams 80s Glamour Shots :roflmao:

OP, as others have said, a nice softbox at the proper distance will do although not cheap but if you make money flipping gear, its worth the investment. I prefer octaboxes myself, but I shoot fashion and glamour so I digress. An Alienbee 400 with one of their medium soft or octaboxes will do.
 
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Use overcast sky's for outside photo's, it's like have a large softbox in your backyard. And it's free.

Yup. This is been my technique for taking photographs of paintings, which are even harder to capture properly without reflections, for many years now. A bright but completely overcast day tends to give the most accurate color representation.
 
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