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The prejudice against pick-playing

When I was doing session work with some pretty heavy-hitters here in LA over the last decade, man, if I couldn't play as well pickstyle as I could with my fingers, I would have been shown the door. That's because it was about the desired sound for the song, not trying to shoehorn the player's preferred approach into it.
I started out playing with a pick, never took up guitar until way later--just started on bass that way. This was in the 70's and I used to get grief from ignorant guitarists at times, until I'd point out that much of the music they loved had pickstyle bass on it!
Can't believe this is still even a thing.
 
I really don't care. If a pick player's attack is light, the difference compared to fingers in a live setting, with a full mix, is not that much. I run sound and get to hear all kinds of players. I will say that I don't care for most aggressive pick playing. But it depends on the music. And as long as the player is in time, in tune, and making the music sound better overall.....again, I don't care.
 
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I like when folks will tell you to use your fingernail. Yeah, it may sound close and it's alright for a note or two, but try playing an hour worth of Motorhead with your fingernail and tell me how your fingers feel about it.
Yep. That's a pet peeve of mine, the fingernail argument--it's simply a different sound. It definitely won't cut it in the studio if the producer wants a pick sound.
 
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I came to electric bass from upright bass, so I feel more confident playing with my fingers. I do use a pick when it makes sense for the tune, just wish I was a better pick player. I especially like the sound of palm muting using a pick.
As a doubler, I've kind a thought that pick is a similar thing that the bow is for double bass.
 
As a doubler, I've kind a thought that pick is a similar thing that the bow is for double bass.
I like that analogy. It's just different sounds, used to get the desired result depending on what the music calls for. Could you imagine on an upright gig that called for bowing how it would go over if you'd say, "no man, I ONLY play pizz, bows are for losers....".
 
I've been trying to learn to play with a pick. There were some songs where I used to play with my fingernail sort of like with a pick. A real pick works better I guess. Or not. I'm just not very good at it. But I'm getting there.

There's this one song that we cover. Moves Like Jackass by Moron 5. I play the verse with the pick and the chorus with fingers. I have to keep the pick between my teeth during choruses. Kinda icky. I'm lucky I don't have to sing any backing vocals at the same time. Hate the song anyway. At least the pay is good. And free beer on most gigs.
 
Among bassists, at least those whom I've known, this sort of bias seems to come mostly from new, younger players who rapidly gravitate toward one famous bassist or one genre. I may have been guilty of it myself when I was 13 or 14. I certainly knew everything else back then. Why not the proper way to make strings vibrate?

Anyway, here's Steve Swallow tearing it up on a Jazz bass with ridiculously high action......with a pick. The solo starts about 6:30 if the link doesn't take you there automagically. EDIT: Ok, that's not a Jazz, but it appears to have a Fender neck.


Man, what a unique player Swallow is. The vibe is like upright meets jazz guitar. Special cat.
 
Over the years, I've always seen comments looking down on playing bass with a pick. I never thought too much about it, as I also play guitar and know pick-playing has its own technique that needs to be mastered and it's not any lesser than finger or slap or tap.

HOWEVER, I've noticed that whenever I'm searching for YouTube videos for sound samples of specific basses, if the video starts off with someone playing the bass with a pick, I'm immediately annoyed, because I much rather hear how it sounds with finger, and then slap. If pick is included, it's fine, but if it's only pick-playing, I can't help but feel disappointed.

I guess the main reason is I almost never play bass with the pick, so I don't really care how a bass sounds with a pick. But I have nothing against it--I do plan on playing some prog metal in the future, and a lot of that is played with picks.

Anyway, how do y'all feel about the obvious prejudice many bassists have against pick-playing?
What annoys me the most is that 99% of these videos contain slap, which is a technique that does not tell us much about the timbre of an instrument because the notes are very short. And since I don't hear a lot of slap in today's music, why is there so many in these videos? At least, in a demo made with a pick, we have a better idea of the sound of the bass or the strings.
 
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For all those who say that a pick is sometimes necessary for certain styles of music.. I don't disagree with you, but you must realize that it is first and foremost a question of sound. Some of us particularly like this sound, whatever our favorite music style.
 
Anyway, how do y'all feel about the obvious prejudice many bassists have against pick-playing?

I do not believe there is an "obvious prejudice many bassists have against pick-playing". I have not experienced it. I see players who prefer each approach playing in many styles of music. My friends and I were all very interested in the potential differences between each as we learned about music, but I am sure I have never met a single person who exhibited prejudice based on a person using or not using a pick. :)
 
My personal theory is that it's because bass guitar is in some ways (some of those substantial, some superficial) a closer relative to guitar than it is to upright bass, but bass guitarists don't want to be perceived as "lesser guitarists" and want to be distinguished as serving their own function. So since playing with a pick is so closely associated with playing guitar, avoiding/looking down on it makes you more of a "real" bass player
It's exactly that.