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The Star Treks

Of the Star Trek Series

  • Every Series ROCKS!

    Votes: 27 8.2%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes

    Votes: 163 49.4%
  • Every Series has good and bad episodes except Enterprise, which sucks

    Votes: 28 8.5%
  • Enterprise and Voyager suck

    Votes: 13 3.9%
  • Enterprise, Voyager and Deep Space Nine suck

    Votes: 19 5.8%
  • The Original Series and TOS Movies are the only good Star Trek

    Votes: 38 11.5%
  • Star Trek sucks, geek boy

    Votes: 11 3.3%
  • Star Trek: Carrots

    Votes: 31 9.4%

  • Total voters
    330
The fandom on FB have lost their minds over this Tarantino news :roflmao:
We could end up with Samuel Jackson as Captain X......
"I said warp f**king nine motherf**ker, give me what the f**k I ordered or your pu**sy a**sed self is giving blow jobs in the g*d d**mned motherf**kin' brig for a sh*t poundin' f**kin week, g*d d*mmit! Are we f**kin' clear? Warp nine, motherf**ker!"
 
I have now watched all of the first season, and almost half of the second season of Enterprise. This show is much better than I realized. I actually consider it my 3rd favorite. Here is my current ranking:

1. TOS
2. TOS Movies
3. Enterprise
4. TNG
5/6. Tie: DS9/Voy
7. TNG Movies
8. The Orville
9. Discovery
WAY BENEATH THIS:
10. JJ Abrams Trek

Enterprise was the last rendition I watched, never having seen it at all on broadcast. After loving TOS as a kid and as an adult (I never tire of watching it, only 3 or 4 episodes I really don't care for) I was overjoyed when TNG came along, and thought it was pretty good, esp seasons 2-6. (except I can't stand Counselor Troi, ick.) I had high hopes for DS9 but I ended up watching it more out of obligation. I was repulsed at first by several episodes of Voyager, and I thought Deep Sixty Nine was the limit of how much cheese I could take in any version of Star Trek. So Voyager really pissed me off.

Fast forward several years to high speed internet. I took in a couple of series I had never seen before, all in sequence......Babylon 5, then Battlestar Galactica, the newer one not the Bonanza version. I never watched Babylon 5 before because it was on at the wrong time, just before TNG on Saturdays. But I was seriously surprised at how good it was, mainly because of the story lines, and what guy in his right mind could possibly turn the channel on Claudia Christian? Battlestar Galactica was an even bigger surprise. I had no idea it was that good, and can't figure out why I never heard of it or saw it on tv. Edward James Olmos is one of my favorites ever, as is Mary McDonnell. And I was really impressed after I learned that Olmos only agreed to do the show if the writers promised that there would never be any "monster" type aliens......only the human-created Cylons. It was cool to have a perspective where humans were not from earth, they originated somewhere else and were only looking for earth as a piece of their mythology.

Anyway, when I ran out of those I turned to all of the free Star Trek online. The only one I had never seen at all, and which was supposedly set in a time before any other Star Trek, was Enterprise. I had seen blurbs in print that said Enterprise was a hit and was really good. But I ended up liking it a lot. (I already had a liking for Scott Bakula from seeing him on other shows) I started thinking it was the best of the Star Trek bunch.

I was so surprised at how good Enterprise turned out to be that I decided to give that other Star Trek flop Voyager another chance, after some forum surfers posted about how they thought it was the best Star Trek series ever. I'm in season 4 now, a few episodes after the departure of Kes and the arrival of Seven. So far I have to admit it is really pretty good. Better in many ways than TNG, although my favorite ST episodes of all time still come from TOS and TNG.

Yeah each series has it's good and bad. The cheesey episodes are really bad.....I can't imagine how much bonus money they had to pay Patrick Stewart to get him to act like a slimy amphibian throwback, and I cant stand Troi, I about puke when I have to watch both Deanna and Lwaxana in the same show. But then the really good episodes are REALLY good. I think my favorite episodes of all are the ones with a man-vs-computer theme.....the M5 computer, and the contagion that ends up being a computer "virus," or Kirk out smarting a ruthlessly logical Nomad computer with his own brand of impeccable logic.

I'll finish Voyager, if for no other reason than to marvel at how gorgeous Jeri Ryan is, and maybe wait for another chance to see Kate Mulgrew with her hair down. Besides one of the most beautiful women of all in any Star Trek world is on Voyager......Roxanne Dawson is my dream home girl! WOW! (we won't go into that awful downfall of Jennifer Lien from super drop dead gorgeous make me drool Ocampa girl next door to whatever it was she morphed into when she got arrested with no hair and no clothes)

I'm glad Enterprise was better than some people say, and I'm glad Voyager is better than I remembered it. I like the tv reboot with Discovery, but it's too early to tell if it's only because of the state of the art special fx or if it really is a well made show. They obviously have another "it's a long story" moment to iron out with yet another redesign of the Klingons, but I like the idea that at least they dont speak English. One of the biggest "cheats" in Star Trek history is that barely plausible universal translator.
 
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I am watching Voyager season 3 onwards....7 of 9 being my motivation....Borg stories are the best....and enjoying some good stories that I did not get into when it was showing

original series will always be my favorite.....from childhood to now

TNG has some great stories....classics.....but never liked number one and Troi...Bleh

Enterprise will be my next...I enjoyed a few when it was on TV

DS9...no

started to enjoy the new Discovery....but hard to like the characters....visually not like the original

All the crew on the Original....outstanding stars......and no ship is as beautiful to look at ...or as realistic as the first Enterprise

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The original Enterprise was designed to represent the UFO's of the day, with most sightings being either saucer shaped or cylindrical. The basic style has stood up well, with just a variation here and there to modernize the design. Everything looks great when it's new, but passes out of favour eventually as newer versions are designed, even if they are supposed to be "older" than the old ships. It does tend to throw continuity out the window, however.
 
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I'm watching old episodes of a show called The Millionaire 1955-1960.
Bones was just in an episode where he played a doctor. He went off on his wife in typical Bones fashion saying "I'm a doctor, not a politician!". He must of drew from that when got his Star Trek gig.
 
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I am watching Voyager ...and really enjoying the series

But.........I suddenly realized a BIG part of why The Original series is so great....Is the orchestral music score...which creates so much tension and excitement

If they would record with a new score , the Voyager series with real orchestra and that dramatic music...WOW...would it make a whole new viewing experience
 
I am watching Voyager ...and really enjoying the series

But.........I suddenly realized a BIG part of why The Original series is so great....Is the orchestral music score...which creates so much tension and excitement

If they would record with a new score , the Voyager series with real orchestra and that dramatic music...WOW...would it make a whole new viewing experience
I think it was scored with a real orchestra. I could be wrong.
 
As for which Enterprise was best--I have to agree with Scotty--"N-C-C 1701, no bloody, A, B, C or D!"
(or anything beyond either--although the E was better than anything from B-D or the one NX one as well)
 
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