The Star Treks

[Gorn]

The complete opposite of the finale of Star Trek Enterprise.

It’s not good. None of the characters actually appear in the finale. They’re all holograms. We just get fat Riker and old Troi who forgot her accent.

 

[RedVee]

Ok I have traversed through a couple of lesser episodes and am halfway through the finale.
Q has just made his appearance.
Also, I note that Data has got a grey streak in his hair.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Ok I have traversed through a couple of lesser episodes and am halfway through the finale.
Q has just made his appearance.
Also, I note that Data has got a grey streak in his hair.

Does Data offer an explanation for the grey streak?

 

[RedVee]

Does Data offer an explanation for the grey streak?

Makes him ‘more distinguished’

 

[Alkali Ike]

Makes him ‘more distinguished’

I recall that now. I really need to revisit TNG.

 

[Bob_Ross]

I'm just about through Season 6, and there was a recent episode where Data mentioned that he does possess the ability to "regulate the length of his hair follicles" or some such nonsense, so it stands to reason that he could also change his hair color. Of course, a whole lot of other things stand to reason except in the minds of the screenwriters, so... :::shrugs:::

 

[RedVee]

Hooray! DS9 & TNG now finished. Very good! Q has a heart of gold, who knew?

Just into TOS now, S1 ep2. I hesitated on Voyager and skipped it. Maybe after the originals.

 

[hbarcat]

I'm just about through Season 6, and there was a recent episode where Data mentioned that he does possess the ability to "regulate the length of his hair follicles" or some such nonsense, so it stands to reason that he could also change his hair color. Of course, a whole lot of other things stand to reason except in the minds of the screenwriters, so... :::shrugs:::

I seem to remember a TNG episode where data adopted a beard and mustache so as to appear more sophisticated.

Did that happen or did I dream that?




EDIT: Here we are.

 

[MAJOR METAL]

Star Trek has never made me feel stupid before the last season of Discovery. I can't even tell you what I watched that season.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Star Trek has never made me feel stupid before the last season of Discovery. I can't even tell you what I watched that season.

I thought S3 was the best by far. Different strokes.

 

[Gorn]

Discovery will make you feel stupid if you try to make sense of the story or character decisions because you’re not used to such bad writing. At first glance you don’t expect such ineptitude when the visuals and sound are so great. The overall plot of each season is inconsistent and illogical and nonsensical and I defy anyone to make a case for the contrary. If anyone likes it for the splosions and Michael Burnham’s emoting or you just enjoy it superficially for the action, than more power to you. You like what you like. But the stories don’t make sense and I don’t think anyone can reasonably say they do.

 

[Jeff Roller]

Discovery will make you feel stupid if you try to make sense of the story or character decisions because you’re not used to such bad writing. At first glance you don’t expect such ineptitude when the visuals and sound are so great. The overall plot of each season is inconsistent and illogical and nonsensical and I defy anyone to make a case for the contrary. If anyone likes it for the splosions and Michael Burnham’s emoting or you just enjoy it superficially for the action, than more power to you. You like what you like. But the stories don’t make sense and I don’t think anyone can reasonably say they do.

This pretty well sums up Picard for me as well.
And I don't have to remind anyone if you share this opinion pretty much anywhere but TB, you get called some pretty vicious names. I could say tons more, but I don't need to.

I could give a flip about what characters identify as what, that's not the point. There's not a sensible story there. In. My. Opinion.

 

[Gorn]

Voyager episode “Alliances.”
Voyager is getting its ass kicked by the Kazon left and right. Janeway is getting push back from the crew for strictly adhering to Federation principles when that might not be the best choice for the situation. So she decides to strike a deal with a faction of the Kazon, but luck would have it they meet an enemy of the Kazon: the Trabe. She gets to know them for about five minutes and decides they’re good folk, despite having been the oppressors of the Kazon at one point but are currently the oppressed. Then everything goes wrong but they get away and she gives a speech about how awesome she is and what a great idea she had about strictly adhering to Federation principles. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Kathryn Janeway is an incompetent leader and should’ve been tried for her crimes once they got back to Earth instead of promoted to admiral.

 

[Bob_Ross]

Incidentally, the missus and I have been hunkering down for the winter in an alternate location, and we just discovered this place has Netflix streaming content...so we started watching the first season of TNG in chronological order, almost certainly for the first time since the series debuted in the late 1980s.
Holy crap is it terrible!!!!
The acting, writing, and characterizations definitely got better as the series progressed. Those first half dozen or so episodes are almost unwatchable!

It was like someone threw a switch: S6 E1 (which was part 2 of the cliffhanger that ended S5) was entertaining and amusing, and then E2 was suddenly and inexplicably stupid, vapid, dull, uninteresting...and literally from the get-go, by the third sentence of dialog you could tell this story was gonna suck.
Uncanny. And every episode since has been equally disappointing. Sitting through this last season-and-a-half is gonna be a chore.

Well, we did it: Sat through every single episode of all seven seasons of TNG. A real labor of love.

I will concede that the season finale may indeed have been the Best. Episode. Ever.
But I also stand by my contention that the entire character of Q and everything he represents was just a deus ex machina whenever the screenwriters couldn't come up with a decent plot.

I suppose we're gonna have to check out Picard next...

 

[MAJOR METAL]

Rest in Peace, Commander. This is one my favorite TOS episodes.

Joanne Linville Dead: ‘Star Trek’ Romulan Commander Had Dozens Of Screen Credits – Deadline

 

[Gorn]

I suppose we're gonna have to check out Picard next...

I implore you, please don’t.

But if you’re going to you should really watch the four TNG movies or just Nemesis, or don’t, and just remember Captain Picard and the gang as you know them now.

 

[hbarcat]

Well, we did it: Sat through every single episode of all seven seasons of TNG. A real labor of love.

I will concede that the season finale may indeed have been the Best. Episode. Ever.
But I also stand by my contention that the entire character of Q and everything he represents was just a deus ex machina whenever the screenwriters couldn't come up with a decent plot.

I suppose we're gonna have to check out Picard next...

I'm gonna have to agree with @Gorn and say that the TNG movies and the new Picard series aren't very faithful to the TNG series. The characters just aren't the same and they behave out of sync with the way you've come to expect from TNG.

 

[Gorn]

I'm gonna have to agree with @Gorn and say that the TNG movies and the new Picard series aren't very faithful to the TNG series. The characters just aren't the same and they behave out of sync with the way you've come to expect from TNG.

Not faithful to the series, and also terrible.

 

[Bob_Ross]

I'm gonna have to agree with @Gorn and say that the TNG movies and the new Picard series aren't very faithful to the TNG series. The characters just aren't the same and they behave out of sync with the way you've come to expect from TNG.

Having seen all of the TNG movies (I think?) I'm not sure what you're referring to. There was never a moment in any of those films where I thought, e.g., "oh come on, Riker would never do that!"

...other than allow Troi to take command of the saucer section, I guess.

What discrepancies or inconsistencies are you guys talking about?

 

[Gorn]

Having seen all of the TNG movies (I think?) I'm not sure what you're referring to. There was never a moment in any of those films where I thought, e.g., "oh come on, Riker would never do that!"

...other than allow Troi to take command of the saucer section, I guess.

What discrepancies or inconsistencies are you guys talking about?

In Generations, every decision by every character makes no sense. It's less about faithfulness to the characters and more about these are professional explorers, scientists, diplomats, warriors, androids, engineers, and Starfleet Officers doing things that stupid people do. That’s pretty much the case for all four movies, IMO.