The Star Treks

[zontar]

In Generations, every decision by every character makes no sense. It's less about faithfulness to the characters and more about these are professional explorers, scientists, diplomats, warriors, androids, engineers, and Starfleet Officers doing things that stupid people do. That’s pretty much the case for all four movies, IMO.

I find the worst one for that is First Contact.
It also totally disrespects TOS, and goes out of its way to do so.

When DS( did the Tribble episode they showed a lot of respect for TOS.
I think that's one thing that I don't like about TNG--it sometimes comes across as feeling inferior to TOS, so instead of building themselves up they try to tear down TOS.

 

[Gorn]

 

[mapleglo]

Over the last few days, we started watching select Star Trek Voyager episodes. Oddly enough, I don't think I ever saw the first episode, which was surprisingly good. We saw the 2nd episode and started with the 3rd, but it involved time travel, which is the bane of my existence. So we skipped ahead to season 4, where Kes is junked, and Seven of Nine is added to the crew. Seven is so bad a$$, as both a Borg and a Human. She may be my 2nd most favorite character, after Spock and before T'Pol.

Also, earlier this week, H&I aired The Inner Light. Even after seeing this episode several times, it still brings tears to my eyes. Two episodes previous is I, Borg, which we also watched. Also a great episode with excellent writing and engaging social/philosophical issues.

I may be softening my views on these spin offs.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Word on the street is Star Treks I thru IV are being remastered in 4K UHD as a box set in time for Xmas.

 

[Gorn]

This guy’s really good.

He goes very in depth into the background and production of the shows. Talks about what could have been and all the problems and stuff. It’s interesting. Wesley was originally a girl called Leslie.

 

[murphy]

This guy’s really good.

He goes very in depth into the background and production of the shows. Talks about what could have been and all the problems and stuff. It’s interesting. Wesley was originally a girl called Leslie.

How on earth did this guy get soooo much information?.....Very thorough and informative

 

[Gorn]

How on earth did this guy get soooo much information?.....Very thorough and informative

There’s all kinds of behind the scenes books and a lot of video and apparently transcripts of interviews. There’s something called the “series bible” for each show that has all the initial ideas and what changed. Stuff like Julian Picard and there not being a ship at all. Apparently Gene had some wacky ideas and from everything I’ve seen and read about him, he was a tremendous douche bag and without push back from everyone else involved, Star Trek might not have happened at all.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home will be shown in theaters August 19th & 22nd, newly remastered in 4K UHD etc. from the original film elements.

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home Returning to Theaters in 4k, Trailer Released

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home is returning to theaters courtesy of Fathom Events. This two-night engagement will offer Star Trek fans their first opportunity to see the new 4k remaster of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home that will be released on home media as part of the Star Trek: The Original 4 Movies 4k Ultra Hd/Blu-Ray Collection in September. Often fondly remembered as "The One With the Whales," Leonard Nimoy directed Star Trek IV and starred as Spock in the movie, alongside the other members of the Star Trek: The Original Series cast. The films will be in theaters on August 19th and August 22nd.

 

[Gorn]

I’m not sure but I think The Voyage Home was my first exposure to Star Trek. It was always on tv when I was a kid. Then I saw TNG, and the original series years later. If The Voyage Home plays in theaters near me I’ll see it.

 

[Alkali Ike]

I’m not sure but I think The Voyage Home was my first exposure to Star Trek. It was always on tv when I was a kid. Then I saw TNG, and the original series years later. If The Voyage Home plays in theaters near me I’ll see it.

I believe Voyage Home was the most commercially successful of all the Trek movies. It was fun. I remember a work colleague who strongly disapproved of the movie’s mild use of profanity as not being consistent with the spirit of Star Trek.

 

[Gorn]

I believe Voyage Home was the most commercially successful of all the Trek movies. It was fun. I remember a work colleague who strongly disapproved of the movie’s mild use of profanity as not being consistent with the spirit of Star Trek.

Besides the fact that the language was part of the comedic aspect of the movie, it was explained right there. Kirk said that’s how people talked. Your colleague needs to relax.

 

[Gorn]

I believe Voyage Home was the most commercially successful of all the Trek movies. It was fun. I remember a work colleague who strongly disapproved of the movie’s mild use of profanity as not being consistent with the spirit of Star Trek.

Data saying “oh ****” as Deanna Troy crashed the Enterprise in Generations was awful.

 

[hbarcat]

I’m not sure but I think The Voyage Home was my first exposure to Star Trek. It was always on tv when I was a kid. Then I saw TNG, and the original series years later. If The Voyage Home plays in theaters near me I’ll see it.

I was working in a factory at age 18 when TNG was first aired and my job was a totally brain dead assignment where I had to separate part A from part B all day. Total autopilot.

I was "allowed" to have a TV in my workstation and I eagerly watched TNG while "working".

So, TNG was my first exposure to ST ever. I had never seen an original episode and couldn't care less about it.

I watched TNG from the very beginning and fell in love with it.

When Picard was assimilated into the Borg, I was with a bunch of my TNG watching friends and we all practically pooped ourselves when the season ended on that cliffhanger.

 

[Alkali Ike]

Besides the fact that the language was part of the comedic aspect of the movie, it was explained right there. Kirk said that’s how people talked. Your colleague needs to relax.

You accurately paraphrase Alex Kurtzman with regard to profanity in Discovery and Picard. Kurtzman says that’s how people talk so therefore modern Trek must include f-bombs. I respectfully disagree.

BTW I haven’t seen or talked to the colleague since 1990.

 

[Gorn]

 

[zontar]

2nd or 3rd worst episode of TOS

 

[Alkali Ike]

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Can you provide some context to the rest of us? Or at least me?

 

[zontar]

Can you provide some context to the rest of us? Or at least me?

Data's painting

 

[Gorn]

Can you provide some context to the rest of us? Or at least me?

It’s Vigo the Carpathian from Ghostbusters 2.

 

[mapleglo]