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The stoner/doom bassists thread...

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JoeVictim said:
I am interested to know how many of you guys use 5'ers. When I have a chance to go bass shopping, I'll probably be looking at 5's too.
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Never needed to. I play light or extra light gauge and tune as low as C#. I find that if the guitar is tuned really low then there is no need for the bass to go to a lower octave, I just play in the same octave or even an octave higher. But then again we are not exactly a doom band either.
 
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bassboysam said:
This is so true. No disrespect to anyone but any riff in a low tuning can sound "heavy". Standard or half step tuning really forces you to be more creative in setting the atmosphere.
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theres some truth to that, but i know from talking to john (from billows) a lot about his gear/setup that he uses an octave pedal, so while hes in Eb which isnt considered a low tuning, that octave pedal definitely adds lots of balls to your sound.

john if you jump in here, what is your opinion on your sound with the octave pedal vs without it? im assuming it makes a big difference.
 
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JoeVictim said:
I don't know how doomy/stoner you consider Torche, but nothing sounds like the bomb sounding chords Steve plays. I don't know what tuning he's in but I think it's A.
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I talked to Steve at a show and its mostly drop c now. He used to play in drop A and " drop z" but he said he barely plays the guitar in that super low tuning any more and if you want low tuning listen to floor! His first band
 
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beebassdude said:
theres some truth to that, but i know from talking to john (from billows) a lot about his gear/setup that he uses an octave pedal, so while hes in Eb which isnt considered a low tuning, that octave pedal definitely adds lots of balls to your sound.

john if you jump in here, what is your opinion on your sound with the octave pedal vs without it? im assuming it makes a big difference.
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Honestly I've only been running the octave pedal as an OD with the octave stuff dialed all the way back while I get a new fuzz from Sonny. What you heard at Vito's was OD only. Before I picked up the OC-3 I was only running the bluebeard, so the heaviness is all in the riff structure and the fact that my tone's got a bigger set of balls than the #1 bulldog used for breeding. Fuzz died on me as soon as I got the OC so haven't been able to toy with the heavy octaves yet.
 
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Lazarus.Bird said:
Honestly I've only been running the octave pedal as an OD with the octave stuff dialed all the way back while I get a new fuzz from Sonny. What you heard at Vito's was OD only. Before I picked up the OC-3 I was only running the bluebeard, so the heaviness is all in the riff structure and the fact that my tone's got a bigger set of balls than the #1 bulldog used for breeding. Fuzz died on me as soon as I got the OC so haven't been able to toy with the heavy octaves yet.
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how do you get "fuzz" or overdrive from the OC-3?
 
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JoeVictim said:
I am interested to know how many of you guys use 5'ers. When I have a chance to go bass shopping, I'll probably be looking at 5's too.
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I do. I joined the band recently, they've been going for 3-4 years already. The guitarist uses a 6-string using the bottom 6 of a 7-string set, so that B is pretty tight sounding (not loose and flappy like an E-string tuned down). I've played mainly 5-strings since I started, so this was pretty easy for me. I've been using medium Blue Steel strings, but since I only use this bass for this band I'll probably switch to Boomers to get that little bit of extra "oomph". Also, a lot of our stuff is an octave up, so it's not like we're down in Korn territory.

I do use an octave pedal often under solos, but I got the EHX Micro Pog that can do an octave up as well - definitely helps fill in the space.
 
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Deluge Of Sound said:
Vegas, during my forced departure from TB, I fell in love with Swans.

Since you're possibly the only other Swans fan on the board, I thought I'd let you know. Their newest album absolutely blew my mind.

The rest of you guys should do yourselves a favor and check 'em out. Heavy doesn't come close to Swans.
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I've been into Swans since the early 90's. Not big on the noise stuff, I really dig White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, The Great Annihilator, Burning World, Omniscience...Gira's the man.
 
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ampegfuzz said:
I talked to Steve at a show and its mostly drop c now. He used to play in drop A and " drop z" but he said he barely plays the guitar in that super low tuning any more and if you want low tuning listen to floor! His first band
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Floor is fantastic. Dove should be required listening.

Jason! said:
I've been into Swans since the early 90's. Not big on the noise stuff, I really dig White Light from the Mouth of Infinity, The Great Annihilator, Burning World, Omniscience...Gira's the man.
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Gira's definitely the man. Too bad I didn't get into them until after they'd toured in my area... So it goes.


Also, when I was downtuning & dooming, I just used a set of regular roto's tuned down to C. The flop-factor adds a level of trippy zone-y-ness that using heavier gauge strings just doesn't do.
 
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