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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
- Thread starter kranahan
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I mentioned a solid state version of the Mesa Bass 400. I well respected all tube amp. I'm thinking a solid state version of that
Or.
The April Fool is that there is no drop.......
That's my hope. I had a Mesa 400+ and an Eden, far preferred the Eden.
Eden triple parametric with contour or Mesa 400+ with GEQ or bust. lol.
The Mesa was going through 2 Goliath 410s, great power, did great for outdoor gigs. The sound was the sound was the sound. The Eden was more versatile, deeper lows, higher highs, low volume to mid volume it was great. Warmer tone in general.
Well, I've got my first taste of Sushi, and I like the flavor!
I took delivery of an Underground Accelerator. I'm still searching out different sounds, but with the bass at about noon, treble a bit below that, mids dimed and the gain up a bit, not enough for real obvious overdrive, I really like the thickness in the low mids / upper bass, just like I was hoping for. I can't wait to try it in a band setting!
I think it may cause me a problem, though... you see, I usually gig with two basses (fretted and fretless), and I'll probably want different settings for them. So I might need more Sushi on my pedalboard
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So many to choose from! Can anyone give me their impression of a comparison between the UA and Elementary? Is the main difference a different voicing of the EQ, or is the gain structure different too? Or maybe all I need is a little More?
Anyway, nice work, Nathan!
I took delivery of an Underground Accelerator. I'm still searching out different sounds, but with the bass at about noon, treble a bit below that, mids dimed and the gain up a bit, not enough for real obvious overdrive, I really like the thickness in the low mids / upper bass, just like I was hoping for. I can't wait to try it in a band setting!
I think it may cause me a problem, though... you see, I usually gig with two basses (fretted and fretless), and I'll probably want different settings for them. So I might need more Sushi on my pedalboard
.So many to choose from! Can anyone give me their impression of a comparison between the UA and Elementary? Is the main difference a different voicing of the EQ, or is the gain structure different too? Or maybe all I need is a little More?
Anyway, nice work, Nathan!
The Elementary is based off of a Hiwatt, whereas the UA is roughly based off of a Fender/Alembic kind of preamp. They're very different, and the circuit DNA is not the same nor is the voicing similar in my experience. I would categorize those two purely as true preamps with the ability to overdrive. The More is just a kind of parallel gain stage/boost/saturator, and I find it works best at the front or end of a chain, but its versatility is limited compared to the UA or Elementary. That being said, to my ears the More adds a perceptible depth to the signal (I believe this has to do with its parallel gain stages, but that's a guess). The More will not overdrive on its own, but I have found using it in front of an overdrive or distortion pedal will open that pedal up quite a bit in a very pleasant manner. That being said, I have found the UA to probably be the most flexible of the Sushi lineup, as it can be boost, overdrive. pre, saturation, etc, any and all of the above for the UA. The Elementary can be a good boost or overdrive, but personally it wasn't to my taste compared to the UA. And all that being said, my personal favorite pre in the lineup is the Grand Slampegg - I can't recommend it enough!
The More into the UA sounds amazing, you can take it from the really pleasant clean sound it's great for, to a thicker and warmer sound just with a little boost from the more, gives it two great voices. If Nathan's marketing methods were like some pedal brands he'd be combining a More and a UA into a single box (and charging three times as much as he does). Thankfully he seems to enjoy putting all of us ahead of profits and sleep, so the modular nature and affordability of the pedals is perfect.
I've got to agree with LSM07, the Grand Slampegg is where it's at for me at the moment, I love the other SB pedals I have, and they each have their place, but when I just want a really killer sound the GS is what I've reached for pretty much every time since it arrived. It's the main part of my mini board, Tuner>compressor of choice>Grand Slampegg job done.
I've got to agree with LSM07, the Grand Slampegg is where it's at for me at the moment, I love the other SB pedals I have, and they each have their place, but when I just want a really killer sound the GS is what I've reached for pretty much every time since it arrived. It's the main part of my mini board, Tuner>compressor of choice>Grand Slampegg job done.
as a future endeavour for sushibox pedals it would be amazing to have a fairchild 660 pedal.
could be the same size as the S(ushi)VT2
could be the same size as the S(ushi)VT2
Awesome video! What a great guy ! Thanks for all the info you put out there !
That thing has 12 tubes in it, my dude.
4x 6386 dual triode
1x 12BH7 dual triode
1x 12AX7 dual triode
2x 6V6GT pentode
1x GZ34 rectifier (optional, omitted if SMPS is used)
1x 6BL7 oscillator
1x 6084 pentode
1x 5651 voltage reference (optional, omitted if SMPS is used)
Super neat design, but even if I was smart enough to build one of those, it would not fit in a pedal.
You mean you're not branching out into rackmount units yet then...?
Check and see what tube is in there. A lot of people put 5751's in the UA to tame the OD/gain on that pedal. There should be plenty of gain on tape to really drive it even with the EQ on.Well, I've got my first taste of Sushi, and I like the flavor!
I took delivery of an Underground Accelerator. I'm still searching out different sounds, but with the bass at about noon, treble a bit below that, mids dimed and the gain up a bit, not enough for real obvious overdrive, I really like the thickness in the low mids / upper bass, just like I was hoping for. I can't wait to try it in a band setting!
I think it may cause me a problem, though... you see, I usually gig with two basses (fretted and fretless), and I'll probably want different settings for them. So I might need more Sushi on my pedalboard
So many to choose from! Can anyone give me their impression of a comparison between the UA and Elementary? Is the main difference a different voicing of the EQ, or is the gain structure different too? Or maybe all I need is a little More?
Anyway, nice work, Nathan!
Such a great pedal
its true, but they're only to work with the transformers to get voltage gains.
once the voltage problem is out of the way the mu-magic can be had with 1-3 tubes, a transformer or two and some small modern pcb magic.
worth checking out. I'll try to source and email you a schematic.
Always surprised how rarely the 5751 is mentioned in this thread.
For me it’s the first thing I try when wanting to tame a 12ax7 circuit.
Come to think of it, the website doesn’t really say what tubes are in there stock. Are sushi box pedals always shipped with a 12ax7?
Oh ohhhh, did Havnjero find some Sushi Kryptonite?
I thought Nathan was tough enough to sprinkle tubes on his morning cornflakes
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