At the risk of ruffling feathers, just be aware that adding another tube to your chain does not guaranty better tone. My ears have not found that running multiple tube preamps in series is beneficial, although I do like having different flavours available to use one at a time. YMMV.
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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Consider my feathers thoroughly ruffled.
yes, i think there can be a point of diminished returns, especially if you are not keeping gain stages in check.
my current board has a UA at the front and Finally at the end. i find that the UA provides enough saturation and tone shaping to help feed everything down-chain, the Finally is the sweetener at the end to help me fine-tune the gain/level before going to FOH. it took me a while but i found a nice range that works for pretty much all my needs.
i've added more Sushi to the mix before and it does sometimes get harder to keep everything in balance, but i usually chalk that up to me not knowing enough about signal chains and not having enough time/patience (and power sources) to properly dial in....
In all seriousness, the only tube pedals I have on my personal board are a compressor and a preamp. Chaining a dozen tube pedals in a row is neat, but not practical or necessary. Running a More into an Elementary is a good way to add some clarity and extra harmonic content to the front end if you think that would help, but frankly the only reason I would run an Elementary into a Finally would be if I wanted a good D.I. output and/or some more gain from cascading the two tubes.
Despite the temptation to run multiple pedals in a signal chain there comes a point where there are diminishing results perhaps more so when talking tube based pedals. Balancing the complexities of gain staging and the push and pull of different tone control options can be very hit and miss. I do often have multiple options but in general will use one at a time sometimes a combination but rarely.
From what I've read here, More doesn't really break up, it's more of a clean headroom preamp to just give you more of whatever you run into it.
More -> Elementary sounds interesting, but i have not first-hand experience with those pedals, so not sure Watt it will sound like.
maybe others will chime in with More (and Elementary) first-hand experience.
Hello fellas,
I recently scored a Neptunium on FB Marketplace and I’ve been enjoying it, but I also have a sneaking feeling that something might be off with my unit. Wondering if anyone else has experienced the following.
- When I have the XLR out connected to my interface and I turn the 1/4” volume all the way up, the signal completely cuts off. This isn’t something I would do in reality, but it’s interesting.
- When the EQ is completely disengaged, it sounds like my tone is missing low end. It seems to have less low end, low mids, and gain than when I just plug in directly. A quick twist of the bass knob and it sounds great, but it does seem weird that my bass doesn’t sound like my bass through the Neptunium with no EQ.
I’m playing a passive p bass with flats if that matters.
Thank you!
I recently scored a Neptunium on FB Marketplace and I’ve been enjoying it, but I also have a sneaking feeling that something might be off with my unit. Wondering if anyone else has experienced the following.
- When I have the XLR out connected to my interface and I turn the 1/4” volume all the way up, the signal completely cuts off. This isn’t something I would do in reality, but it’s interesting.
- When the EQ is completely disengaged, it sounds like my tone is missing low end. It seems to have less low end, low mids, and gain than when I just plug in directly. A quick twist of the bass knob and it sounds great, but it does seem weird that my bass doesn’t sound like my bass through the Neptunium with no EQ.
I’m playing a passive p bass with flats if that matters.
Thank you!
This is an "issue" that was resolved in subsequent versions of the pedal with an independent buffer on the 1/4" output. There's nothing wrong, per se, with yours in particular.
Yes, if I remember right, Nathan said he had the parts on hand to “fix” all of the V1’s. I sent mine in and he had it back to me in less than a week from the date I shipped it. Nothing but praise for anything Sushi!
As mentioned this issue is unique to the first version Neptuniums, and there is a fix. If you'd like to send it in you can reach out via PM or email and we can work it out.
And that is inherent to the EQ itself. Passive tonestacks like the one used here are inherently lossy, and set "flat" will drop the signal level approximately -32dB, and in the case of the Neptunium EQ there is an additional -3dB below about 1kHz. This is likely what you're hearing.
I must have missed when the WATT pedal became available since it's in stock now.
Has anyone ordered one yet ?
Has anyone ordered one yet ?
I hope this sticks around for a while. I'm in a spending freeze for a few months, but hope to pick one of these up...
Shot it the dark... does anyone have a Detective that they would be willing to trade for a Per Your Last Email? I need a second Detective for my small board, and my Per Your Last Email isn't getting much use. PM me if you do...
I believe that there will be a lot of them available so it hopefully should be ok for you.
Personally I have to cut right back as well until I know what the bills are going to be for 5 days in hospital over the weekend.
But nothing is going to stop me from getting the latest PCB from C2CE when Nathan gets all the build docs and artwork finished, it's going to be a great one.
The C2CE shop also has a new completed pedals section where I think built pedals will be available for those that can't build their own, they can buy the finished thing, there are already Nobeliums in there but it says no stock until it gets going, I think they will be available soon though.
I think it's a great new addition to C2CE, I can't wait for the "pink" series of completed pedals to come out when the Sushi kids realize they can make some extra pocket money by building some C2CE pedals and selling them. I'm sure they will be carefully checked over by dad in the beginning before they hit the shop. At least I personally hope the kids do this since it would be a great learning experience for them.
Cheers
Mick
Sounds like a hard day's night over there.
Take care and I hope everyone comes out of it ok and not too broke, either.
