The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

[Sushi Box FX]

Sorry if this has been answered before, but where did the name "particle accelerator" come from?

I don't think it ever was asked So the Particle Accelerator is based on the Alembic F-2B, and an alembic is a piece of laboratory equipment from the 18-19th century. Since I used some modern circuitry for the power supply I wanted to use the name of a modern piece of lab equipment, and particle accelerator seemed catchy enough

 

[krfoss]

I don't think it ever was asked So the Particle Accelerator is based on the Alembic F-2B, and an alembic is a piece of laboratory equipment from the 18-19th century. Since I used some modern circuitry for the power supply I wanted to use the name of a modern piece of lab equipment, and particle accelerator seemed catchy enough

Sounds cool enough, but your other pedals do a take on their original box or device, so it got me wondering.

Thanks!

 

[mmbongo]

Depends on the changes, I've already ordered all my parts for the month. What did you have in mind?

I was thinking several free pedals?

But no, no changes needed now. False alarm

 

[Sushi Box FX]

So after a million years of forgetting, I finally remembered to cascade Space Heater and Westinghouse. Here are my thoughts:

Space Heater into Westinghouse: I love selling pedals. I want everyone to buy all my pedals and use them all at the same time. That being said With the Westinghouse after Space Heater there is almost zero noticeable difference. If I turn the voltage down there is an audible low cut, but with the voltage turned up and levels matched I do not hear any difference between Space Heater by itself and Space Heater through Westinghouse.

Westinghouse into Space Heater: so this one was more interesting. I left Space Heater fairly clean, and with Westinghouse in front of it there is a noticeable "thickening" of tone. I had the Westinghouse Level well above unity (around 12:00) and it still wasn't enough to push Space Heater to overdrive, it was just a fat boosting. With Space Heater's Gain cranked up higher into drive territory turning on Westinghouse in front of it still adds the thick boost, but provides a noticeable heavier drive (obviously).

So my personal opinion (which should be taken with a grain of salt as I am not a bassist), Westinghouse in front of Space Heater is a real winner tone-wise, Westinghouse after Space Heater gives a more or less transparent volume boost. I don't think it's that Westinghouse doesn't color the sound at all, it's just that Space Heater is very non-transparent (opaque preamp?) so compared to Space Heater, Westinghouse's tonal shaping is extremely subtle.

 

[Skip Chucker]

So after a million years of forgetting, I finally remembered to cascade Space Heater and Westinghouse. Here are my thoughts:

Space Heater into Westinghouse: I love selling pedals. I want everyone to buy all my pedals and use them all at the same time. That being said With the Westinghouse after Space Heater there is almost zero noticeable difference. If I turn the voltage down there is an audible low cut, but with the voltage turned up and levels matched I do not hear any difference between Space Heater by itself and Space Heater through Westinghouse.

Westinghouse into Space Heater: so this one was more interesting. I left Space Heater fairly clean, and with Westinghouse in front of it there is a noticeable "thickening" of tone. I had the Westinghouse Level well above unity (around 12:00) and it still wasn't enough to push Space Heater to overdrive, it was just a fat boosting. With Space Heater's Gain cranked up higher into drive territory turning on Westinghouse in front of it still adds the thick boost, but provides a noticeable heavier drive (obviously).

So my personal opinion (which should be taken with a grain of salt as I am not a bassist), Westinghouse in front of Space Heater is a real winner tone-wise, Westinghouse after Space Heater gives a more or less transparent volume boost. I don't think it's that Westinghouse doesn't color the sound at all, it's just that Space Heater is very non-transparent (opaque preamp?) so compared to Space Heater, Westinghouse's tonal shaping is extremely subtle.

So the Westinghouse is more of a flavor enhancer for what pedals/amps/preamps that are in your chain already (MSG if you will)? Whereas the Space Heater has it's own distinct flavor?

How much of the Space Heater is a Particle Accelerator without a tonestack?

(I've got both in the cart now for April, I've been waffleing back and forth- paralysis by analysis I tell you!)

 

[labeledbass]

So the Westinghouse is more of a flavor enhancer for what pedals/amps/preamps that are in your chain already (MSG if you will)? Whereas the Space Heater has it's own distinct flavor?

How much of the Space Heater is a Particle Accelerator without a tonestack?

(I've got both in the cart now for April, I've been waffleing back and forth- paralysis by analysis I tell you!)

Just get your space and switch, if you need need too, after someone else has more info, unless this is the first batch to get them

 

[Sushi Box FX]

So the Westinghouse is more of a flavor enhancer for what pedals/amps/preamps that are in your chain already (MSG if you will)? Whereas the Space Heater has it's own distinct flavor?

I'd say this completely nails it.

How much of the Space Heater is a Particle Accelerator without a tonestack?

Almost all of it. There is a little piece London Underground has that keeps it from freaking out when treble and gain are both cranked, which is the only complaint I've ever had on PA, I added that into Space Heater. But aside from that it basically is PAX without a tonestack.

 

[Skip Chucker]

I'd say this completely nails it.


Almost all of it. There is a little piece London Underground has that keeps it from freaking out when treble and gain are both cranked, which is the only complaint I've ever had on PA, I added that into Space Heater. But aside from that it basically is PAX without a tonestack.

Thanks brother!

 

[fivestringgecko]

There is a little piece London Underground has that keeps it from freaking out when treble and gain are both cranked, which is the only complaint I've ever had on PA, I added that into Space Heater. But aside from that it basically is PAX without a tonestack.

This is actually pretty helpful in deciding what to get for my March build... Still waffling on the Westinghouse, but I was actually wondering if something like this might be the case for the Space Heater, and was thinking about the London X as an option. Guess I just need to decide which (and how) I'd use either more.

Thanks!

5sg.

 

[NKBassman]

@Sushi Box FX , would you say the effect is the same as what you described when putting the Westinghouse before/after any of your tube pedals?

 

[11386]

Those who have ordered the Westinghouse or have/had the Edison, how do you use it? As a boost? As an always-on pedal? If the latter, do you use it with a tube or hybrid amplifier?

With that in mind, where do you place it in your chain?

 

[emjazz]

Those who have ordered the Westinghouse or have/had the Edison, how do you use it? As a boost? As an always-on pedal? If the latter, do you use it with a tube or hybrid amplifier?

With that in mind, where do you place in your chain?

I had an Edison for quite some time. It's definitely multi purpose. A good friend uses one at the beginning as a boost. I either kept mine at the end of my chain as an always on tube flavor, or in the effects loop of my solid state amp (this was my favorite). Incredible piece of kit. I expect the Westinghouse to be even better because it has more tweak ability.

 

[1983L2000]

Those who have ordered the Westinghouse or have/had the Edison, how do you use it? As a boost? As an always-on pedal? If the latter, do you use it with a tube or hybrid amplifier?

With that in mind, where do you place it in your chain?

I use(d) my Edison for "tube warmth" into a solid state amp (Quilter BB800); almost always on.

 

[NKBassman]

I ordered a Westinghouse for March, which I think was the first month they were available. So I don't think anybody has one yet.

 

[fivestringgecko]

Those who have ordered the Westinghouse or have/had the Edison, how do you use it? As a boost? As an always-on pedal? If the latter, do you use it with a tube or hybrid amplifier?

With that in mind, where do you place it in your chain?

I've been checking out @Chace90's Edison, and tried it a couple ways so far:
Edison > C4 > Stomp > PC
C4 > Edison > Stomp > PC

Of the two, I liked the second option better... it sweetened the sound of the C4 a bit without changing the sound, although it's subtle and tough to describe how. (EDIT: Maybe it sounded a bit more "analogue," with some tube compression and warmth... as a guess/effort to put into words.) Having the Edison first changed the actual sound/sensitivity/response of the C4 patches quite a bit more. I tried to find unity on the Edison volume, but maybe I still had it a tad too loud, so I'll revisit.

I haven't tried it at the very end of my signal chain as my Stomp is also my PC interface, but @emjazz's point about using it in the FX loop reminded me that I could run the Edison in the Stomp's FX loop and then easily play around with signal order within the Stomp. I'll report back on this when I can get a chance to try it out.

5sg.

 

[kranahan]

LU in the classifieds. No affiliation.

 

[Jaycephas]

I’ve had a Grizzly for a long time. Great pedal and it has some magic sauce using that mid control. Ed Friedland did a YouTube video on it sometime ago that sold me at the time.

I would agree that it can get close to the B15 tone. The LP filter helps and can get a bit of a cabsim.

So I noodled around more with the Slampegg, the Particle Accelerator X and my Grizzly Bear into the CabZone LE. The biggest (and for me huge) difference is that awesome tube grunt when I dig in on the SB effects. The Grizzly cannot emulate that.

Love the Grizzly, but for a much lower price and similar high quality you can get a tube-driven Sushi Box pedal. I don’t know why you wouldn’t.

 

[krfoss]

So I noodled around with the Slampegg, the Particle Accelerator X and my Grizzly Bear into the CabZone LE. The biggest (and for me huge) difference is that awesome tube grunt when I dig in on the SB effects. The Grizzly cannot emulate that.

Love the Grizzly, but for a much lower price and similar high quality you can get a tube-driven Sushi Box pedal. I don’t know why you wouldn’t.

Would you be able to post your settings for the Slampegg? Thanks! This is only getting me more excited to try it (in March...).

 

[Jaycephas]

Well, I don’t typically record these. I’ll see if I can get something down but no promises. Nathan and others have posted bookoo recordings of the Slampegg.

 

[Jaycephas]

Well, I don’t typically record these. I’ll see if I can get something down but no promises. Nathan and others have posted bookoo recordings of the Slampegg.

Actually, I see now you were asking about my settings.