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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society

#5,203
Lowendtech said:
So my package finally showed up yesterday.
Space Heater into Westinghouse is freaking fabulous. I sent those through a Mozz DI-2 into a WD800 and into my headphones.
Everything else in my chain got shut off and I got lost for hours.
That’s my tone right there, that is.
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Yeah, this is a great pairing. I've done the same. Serious mojo.
 
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mmbongo said:
Allright dangit, just when I thought I was through! Now I see that London Underground with PA tone stack.

How does this differ from a normal PA?
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From the website: "A popular request has been a London Underground with a Particle Accelerator tone stack, which gives the bite of London Underground with the richer low end of the Particle Accelerator."
 
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Lowendtech said:
So my package finally showed up yesterday.
Space Heater into Westinghouse is freaking fabulous. I sent those through a Mozz DI-2 into a WD800 and into my headphones.
Everything else in my chain got shut off and I got lost for hours.
That’s my tone right there, that is.
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Wow that’s really cool! So yeah awesome now I need to buy a space heater :-)
 
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#5,208
benjobass said:
From the website: "A popular request has been a London Underground with a Particle Accelerator tone stack, which gives the bite of London Underground with the richer low end of the Particle Accelerator."
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I have a standard London Underground, and while it's not at all anything to complain about, a richer low end would not necessarily be a bad thing.
 
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Lowendtech said:
So my package finally showed up yesterday.
Space Heater into Westinghouse is freaking fabulous. I sent those through a Mozz DI-2 into a WD800 and into my headphones.
Everything else in my chain got shut off and I got lost for hours.
That’s my tone right there, that is.
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How many tubes do you chain? I hope your headphone are tubeless?

:-)
 
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Lowendtech said:
So my package finally showed up yesterday.
Space Heater into Westinghouse is freaking fabulous. I sent those through a Mozz DI-2 into a WD800 and into my headphones.
Everything else in my chain got shut off and I got lost for hours.
That’s my tone right there, that is.
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That's been a popular pairing, I'm thinking Space House needs to happen in the future. I've had more than a couple requests for both in the same box.

mmbongo said:
Allright dangit, just when I thought I was through! Now I see that London Underground with PA tone stack.

How does this differ from a normal PA?
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The biggest difference between the two is where the tone stack comes in the circuit.

PA: input -> first stage -> tone stack -> gain control -> second stage -> master volume -> output

LU: input -> first stage -> gain control -> second stage -> tone stack -> master volume -> output

Tone stacks are inherently lossy, they're going to drop the gain a little. LU bites a little harder than PA because it keeps more of the first stage gain that can go on to hit the second stage, so you have two full stages of gain before it hits the tone stack, whereas the PA loses a little gain after the first stage in the tone stack so it doesn't slam the second stage as hard. Neither is right/wrong/better/worse, they're just different.

Outside of that the differences are minimal, to the point I've thought about combining what I consider to be the best points of both into one pedal so I could cut down on the number of models I offer, but I don't know that it will ever happen.

Though that is more or less what Space Heater is, I took my favorite aspects of PA and favorite aspects of LU, dropped the tone stack, and put it in a little box.
 
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Sushi Box FX said:
That's been a popular pairing, I'm thinking Space House needs to happen in the future. I've had more than a couple requests for both in the same box.
Space house would be awesome!

The biggest difference between the two is where the tone stack comes in the circuit.

PA: input -> first stage -> tone stack -> gain control -> second stage -> master volume -> output

LU: input -> first stage -> gain control -> second stage -> tone stack -> master volume -> output

Tone stacks are inherently lossy, they're going to drop the gain a little. LU bites a little harder than PA because it keeps more of the first stage gain that can go on to hit the second stage, so you have two full stages of gain before it hits the tone stack, whereas the PA loses a little gain after the first stage in the tone stack so it doesn't slam the second stage as hard. Neither is right/wrong/better/worse, they're just different.

Outside of that the differences are minimal, to the point I've thought about combining what I consider to be the best points of both into one pedal so I could cut down on the number of models I offer, but I don't know that it will ever happen.

Though that is more or less what Space Heater is, I took my favorite aspects of PA and favorite aspects of LU, dropped the tone stack, and put it in a little box.
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Space house would be awesome!
 
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Sushi Box FX said:
That's been a popular pairing, I'm thinking Space House needs to happen in the future. I've had more than a couple requests for both in the same box.


The biggest difference between the two is where the tone stack comes in the circuit.

PA: input -> first stage -> tone stack -> gain control -> second stage -> master volume -> output

LU: input -> first stage -> gain control -> second stage -> tone stack -> master volume -> output

Tone stacks are inherently lossy, they're going to drop the gain a little. LU bites a little harder than PA because it keeps more of the first stage gain that can go on to hit the second stage, so you have two full stages of gain before it hits the tone stack, whereas the PA loses a little gain after the first stage in the tone stack so it doesn't slam the second stage as hard. Neither is right/wrong/better/worse, they're just different.

Outside of that the differences are minimal, to the point I've thought about combining what I consider to be the best points of both into one pedal so I could cut down on the number of models I offer, but I don't know that it will ever happen.

Though that is more or less what Space Heater is, I took my favorite aspects of PA and favorite aspects of LU, dropped the tone stack, and put it in a little box.
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Well then on a related note is it too late to make changes On A May build?
 
#5,220
NKBassman said:
Based on my trial last night, I assume you guys are mostly keeping your pedals running into the Deep Dish set at or around unity volume (ie instrument level output, not line level)
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You are correct. My Dr. W is really for the tone coloration and only has a slight boost. the Super 300 AFTER the DD is where my gain comes from
 
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